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KarenK122
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by HoneyBadger
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Posted by Lillykat
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Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack.
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I think this guy was an idiot to go to a place where they cook communal food and expect others to change their orders. That would be like my son going into a Thai place as an adult and ask everyone with him not to order peanut based foods! Time for a little personal responsibility!!
I agree with you. He is an idiot for expecting others to change their meal choice accommodate him.
Honestly, I also fault the couple. I would have notified the waitress that they need to move the guy or us. If I'm out to dinner at a place & opting for seafood, I think he's out of line to tell me I can't order it. Choosing something without nuts is different than eliminating an entire section of the menu. If he has a severe allergy, he should only go to places that don't serve seafood.
This.
Though I believe the dude with the allergy is way more to blame than anyone else.
How presumptuous is it to go to a restaurant where a mainstay is seafood when you have a severe seafood allergy and think it's totally ok to ask complete strangers to not order said food??
Wow.
I read the same issue from the other message board. My feeling was the person with the allergy did not inform the restaurant of the severity of his allergy. The place in question is VERY good about allergies and if the true nature was told then the restaurant would never have sat the couple with the allergy family and if they sat the couple there by accident, they would have immediately rectified it.
That being said, the couple that was inconvienced should have immediately said something to the restaurant and been moved immediately regardless of the wait.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by MandJZ
but what about that person's right to use public transport without risking their own health?
Using public transportation isn't a right. so if the person has an allergy and does not want to risk it then they don't take public transportation.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by alli3131
Posted by MandJZ
but what about that person's right to use public transport without risking their own health?
Using public transportation isn't a right. so if the person has an allergy and does not want to risk it then they don't take public transportation.
I don't think there's an expectation of sanitary health conditions when using public transportation, whether it be a dirty handle or the people using the transportation. Germs are everywhere, and there's also a million things that trigger an allergic reaction. I mean, you expect reasonable cleanliness, but I don't think you can cater necessarily to prevent/prohibit allergy triggers on public transportation.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by alli3131
Posted by MandJZ
but what about that person's right to use public transport without risking their own health?
Using public transportation isn't a right. so if the person has an allergy and does not want to risk it then they don't take public transportation.
I have to agree. It's like the nuts on a plane thing. I've never seen a peanut free flight outside of the US (only seen it here once and I fly a lot). If the allergy is that severe and being in the presence of the trigger is problematic, that sucks ,but the whole world is not going to accommodate your allergy.
As for the original question: She should move.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
She has to speak up, how would the other person know she has a nut allergy? They don't. I would get up and move and if I was told by the person next to me they had an allergy I would either move or put it away.
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Chai77
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
I think she should get up and move.
Some people are allergic to water. Does that mean no one should drink water in public?
And I have a DS with a tree nut and peanut allergy. On an aside, and I'm not if this is hypothetical or not but my DS's allergist said there's really no such thing as true airborne peanut allergy, it would only be an issue if the peanut dust were to physically touch the person like in a completely enclosed space. I'm just repeating what he said, I really don't know.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
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She should get up and move. It's not like the guy was being rude or insensitive. How is he supposed to know she has a nut allergy? Maybe he's diabetic... or on his way to feed the starving children of Calcutta. 
I was going to mention this bc my mom is diabetic and eats a bag of mixed peanuts, cashews, almonds when she gets a low. If it was me, personally I would mention that I am going to leave bc of the nut allergy and see if he moves. He is not obligated to do so at all though. It's a public setting.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by Lillykat
Sort of spin off but this question reminds me of a posr on another website I was reading researching for a trip.
Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack. Couple felt uncomfortable ordering shellfish so ultimately they did not order what they truely wanted. While the restaurant knowing of the allergy maybe should have sat the group at their own table or better yet, a private room. They admitted that they felt they couldn't tell the man to jump off a briidge and order what they wanted, and they couldn't tell them they should move to their own table. The man told them he can't go the fish department of a grocery store without feeling like his throat was closing. Not sure if he told surrounding tables to not eat shellfish as well or not.
Couple didnt't ask to be moved. But later were upset that it happened. Wait was very long for the table...
I think I would quietly explain the situation to the restaurant and request a different table...but curios what others thought. People said they should be moved since it is their allergy and not the couple's problem. What do you think they should have done?
If I were the couple, I would move- I don't think it's fair that he would limit others knowing habachi is dangerous for people with allergies. DS has a really bad shellfish allergy. I always take him out but am sure to tell the hosts and waiters ab this allergy to alert the chef. We never have an issue. I went to Benihanas last week and I sat with another couple. I told the waitress that I wanted DS food cooked in the kitchen to avoid touching shellfish.. no issue at all. I would never expect another patron to accomodate my special need. I know that some people are allergic to the cooking smoke with shellfish also, including a close friend of mine- so his solution is that he does not go to habachi grills. When he goes to restaurants with a large seafood menu, he asks to be sat by a window, door, or table in a corner spot. He does not avoid enjoying dinner out, nor does he expect everyone around him to cater to it.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by Pray4Baby2010
hmm, if it was me with the nut allergy- I would move
but if I was the other person, I would definitely put them away if someone asked me
ITA!
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by neener1211
If I had the nut allergy, I would get up and move. It's my responsibility in a public place to make sure my health is safe, not a stranger's.
Totally This!!
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by Lillies
Posted by Lillykat
Sort of spin off but this question reminds me of a posr on another website I was reading researching for a trip.
Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack. Couple felt uncomfortable ordering shellfish so ultimately they did not order what they truely wanted. While the restaurant knowing of the allergy maybe should have sat the group at their own table or better yet, a private room. They admitted that they felt they couldn't tell the man to jump off a briidge and order what they wanted, and they couldn't tell them they should move to their own table. The man told them he can't go the fish department of a grocery store without feeling like his throat was closing. Not sure if he told surrounding tables to not eat shellfish as well or not.
Couple didnt't ask to be moved. But later were upset that it happened. Wait was very long for the table...
I think I would quietly explain the situation to the restaurant and request a different table...but curios what others thought. People said they should be moved since it is their allergy and not the couple's problem. What do you think they should have done?
If I were the couple, I would move- I don't think it's fair that he would limit others knowing habachi is dangerous for people with allergies. DS has a really bad shellfish allergy. I always take him out but am sure to tell the hosts and waiters ab this allergy to alert the chef. We never have an issue. I went to Benihanas last week and I sat with another couple. I told the waitress that I wanted DS food cooked in the kitchen to avoid touching shellfish.. no issue at all. I would never expect another patron to accomodate my special need. I know that some people are allergic to the cooking smoke with shellfish also, including a close friend of mine- so his solution is that he does not go to habachi grills. When he goes to restaurants with a large seafood menu, he asks to be sat by a window, door, or table in a corner spot. He does not
avoid enjoying dinner out, nor does he expect
everyone around him to cater to it.
Good to know I have avoided the habaci places bc my older DD is allergic to crab and shrimp. We aren't sure how bad the allergy is she had a higher number but have never eaten shellfish.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
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Posted by Lillykat
Sort of spin off but this question reminds me of a posr on another website I was reading researching for a trip.
Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack. Couple felt uncomfortable ordering shellfish so ultimately they did not order what they truely wanted. While the restaurant knowing of the allergy maybe should have sat the group at their own table or better yet, a private room. They admitted that they felt they couldn't tell the man to jump off a briidge and order what they wanted, and they couldn't tell them they should move to their own table. The man told them he can't go the fish department of a grocery store without feeling like his throat was closing. Not sure if he told surrounding tables to not eat shellfish as well or not.
Couple didnt't ask to be moved. But later were upset that it happened. Wait was very long for the table...
I think I would quietly explain the situation to the restaurant and request a different table...but curios what others thought. People said they should be moved since it is their allergy and not the couple's problem. What do you think they should have done?
If I were the couple, I would move- I don't think it's fair that he would limit others knowing habachi is dangerous for people with allergies. DS has a really bad shellfish allergy. I always take him out but am sure to tell the hosts and waiters ab this allergy to alert the chef. We never have an issue. I went to Benihanas last week and I sat with another couple. I told the waitress that I wanted DS food cooked in the kitchen to avoid touching shellfish.. no issue at all. I would never expect another patron to accomodate my special need. I know that some people are allergic to the cooking smoke with shellfish also, including a close friend of mine- so his solution is that he does not go to habachi grills. When he goes to restaurants with a large seafood menu, he asks to be sat by a window, door, or table in a corner spot. He does not
avoid enjoying dinner out, nor does he expect
everyone around him to cater to it.
Good to know I have avoided the habaci places bc my older DD is allergic to crab and shrimp. We aren't sure how bad the allergy is she had a higher number but have never eaten shellfish.
With DS, he reacts to contact only - not inhalation so he can tolerate any cooking smoke from the shrimp- even though they have very good ventilation hoods. Bring benedryl and epi pen just in case but they def accomodate food allergies.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
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Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
i'd be annoyed if i had a pb sandwich on an airplane and i was told i couldn't eat it bc the person next to me had a nut allergy
Really? That's actually sad.
I think it's just common courtesy in general to not pack peanut butter products to be eaten on an airplane, just because the allergy is so prevalent these days.
why is it sad? airplane food is insanely expensive, and if they do give you an inflight snack it's often quite measly. i've been on six hour flights that offer no food, so i tend to pack my own-i get headaches/shaky if i don't eat every few hours because i can't eat large portions at a time..
if i were to take into consideration every stranger's possible allergy, i wouldn't have anything left to eat.
then again, i find the entire situation quite hypothetical-i fly quite a bit, and have never encountered a nut free flight.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by evrythng4areason
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Posted by MandJZ
Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
i'd be annoyed if i had a pb sandwich on an airplane and i was told i couldn't eat it bc the person next to me had a nut allergy
Really? That's actually sad.
I think it's just common courtesy in general to not pack peanut butter products to be eaten on an airplane, just because the allergy is so prevalent these days.
why is it sad? airplane food is insanely expensive, and if they do give you an inflight snack it's often quite measly. i've been on six hour flights that offer no food, so i tend to pack my own-i get headaches/shaky if i don't eat every few hours because i can't eat large portions at a time..
if i were to take into consideration every stranger's possible allergy, i wouldn't have anything left to eat.
then again, i find the entire situation quite hypothetical-i fly quite a bit, and have never encountered a nut free flight.
There are very few airbourne food allergies. Nuts just happens to be one of them. I'd hope if you were asked to put it away, you would, and not have another human being go into anaphylactic shock midflight bc you didnt want to get "shaky".
Pack animal crackers, veggie sticks, an apple, cheese stick, popcorn...
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
IF there was an open seat I would get up and move. If the train was packed I would very apologetically tell the man that I was severly allergic and hope he puts them away. If not, then I would stand up and go further away from him.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
By the number of pages I'm guessing there is a hot debate going on... I'm not going to read all the responses but for me, it's not right to tell someone who is in a public place to put away the nuts... I think said woman should move if it may bother her to this extreme...
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
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To be honest, if it were me, I would get up and move.
Me too! i don't believe we can make demands on other people on subways. Plus, the person could be a nut.
And i agree that she should move.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by MandJZ
Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
I have been on flights where we have been told there is someone with an allergy and they won't be serving XYZ. I am guessing people with severe allergies probably notify the airline when they book their tickets. The airline didn't make a big deal out of it and no one complained. IMO, no big deal.
As far as the subway situation goes I assume everyone on the subway is a psychopath  so if I were the person with the allergy I would just move rather than ask someone to put their nuts away (that didn't sound right). But on the flip side if someone realized I wasn't a psychopath and asked me to put my nuts away I would do it. Eating on the subway grosses me out anyway. I don't even like breathing the air in a subway car let alone eat something in there!!
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How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
I agree with the majority that I would get up and move if it were my allergy.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
I think the girl with the allergy should move.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by MandJZ
Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
You could notify the airline and they can make your flight nut free. I have been on a few flights that were nut free
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