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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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I dont understand why so many people rush their baby to be on "solids (purees or other)".
There is a lot of new evidence that starting solids early can prevent serious food allergies. (not milk allergies those are different) This is why some peds "rush".
Our country's babies are delayed from solids the longest and our children have the highest incident of food allergies. The research is rooted in much deeper correlations and evidence. But this one fact makes sense to me.
In almost any other country, they give tastes of things as soon as baby shows any interest. This is how I did it. This is how my ancestors did it.
IMO its not about how old a baby is, its about their overall readiness, and its something only the primary caretaker and the ped can really know enough to decide whats best for the baby.
If you feel especially righteous about starting solids late, good for you, but its not right for everyone.
Holy SHIIIIIITE! I AGREE with you 10000%
Mine started solids at 3 months..
Same here...We started solids at 3.5 months. my DD's are excellent eaters and have no allergies. I think everyone has to read what's out there, talk to your ped and make your own informed decision. For us it was to start the solids early and by 8 months we were on all table food with my last DD and 11 months with my 1st DD.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Tilde
I know people are getting annoyed at the boredom comment. LOL obviously.
But just wanted to say that is exactly what my doctor told me, and not what I personally believe!
I thought it was hysterical actually. ESPECIALLY that a doctor said it.
ask you ped how many courses on nutrition he/she has taken. 
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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Posted by Tilde
I know people are getting annoyed at the boredom comment. LOL obviously.
But just wanted to say that is exactly what my doctor told me, and not what I personally believe!
I thought it was hysterical actually. ESPECIALLY that a doctor said it.
ask you ped how many courses on nutrition he/she has taken.
I dont get why that is funny that a ped would say that.
Also...what does a course in nutrition have to do with what a ped sees thousnds of parents doing over the course of his/her career?
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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Posted by Tilde
I know people are getting annoyed at the boredom comment. LOL obviously.
But just wanted to say that is exactly what my doctor told me, and not what I personally believe!
I thought it was hysterical actually. ESPECIALLY that a doctor said it.
ask you ped how many courses on nutrition he/she has taken.
I  my ped but point taken! 
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Liam started at 4 months because he was EBF and I was going back to work. My body didn't pump well. I struggled with every single ounce. When I was with him he nursed all the time. My choice was to start solids or to supplement with formula. By starting then I was able to make it until 8 months without formul. By then I got my first PP AF and I was doomed as far as pumping. However, the women in my family get AF back really quick... like 6 weeks.. And I was able to hold it off until 6 months and I am pretty sure I held off solids a lot longer than my mom and aunts did.
The only thing I think is.. If I had delayed solids maybe AF wouldn't have come back at 6 months. But, I am not totally convinced of that. And if I didn't start solids, I was going to use formula and that would have had the same effect.
Anyway. Liam is doing great. We never had spit up issues or constipation. He was a chubster from the first few weeks. At 2 years he is slimming out and will be a skinny minny just like all the boys in my family.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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Posted by Tilde
I know people are getting annoyed at the boredom comment. LOL obviously.
But just wanted to say that is exactly what my doctor told me, and not what I personally believe!
I thought it was hysterical actually. ESPECIALLY that a doctor said it.
ask you ped how many courses on nutrition he/she has taken.
I dont get why that is funny that a ped would say that.
Also...what does a course in nutrition have to do with what a ped sees thousnds of parents doing over the course of his/her career?
it's an assinine comment to make IMHO.
and I'll let you mull over your last comment. I am sure you are smart enough to answer that yourself. an ER doctor sees thousands of patients a year, but he doesn't have the knowlege or the skill to cure them all...just enough to pass them on to someone who DOES.
a pediatritian is NOT a nutritionist. not a GI doctor. not a soothsayer. not a magician. they too are swayed by their beliefs and their interpretation of the data given to them. if you agree with their interpretation, then that is great.
I do not agree with the interpretation of early feeding due to boredom as a blanket statement.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
the one thing i really don't agree with is that BIG babies need to start solids earlier.
Loey was always in the 99th percentile for weight and at 6 months was 21 lbs, 15 ounces.
We didn't start solids until 6 months. He definitely did not NEED it. He was EBF and THRIVING!
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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Posted by Tilde
I know people are getting annoyed at the boredom comment. LOL obviously.
But just wanted to say that is exactly what my doctor told me, and not what I personally believe!
I thought it was hysterical actually. ESPECIALLY that a doctor said it.
ask you ped how many courses on nutrition he/she has taken.
I dont get why that is funny that a ped would say that.
Also...what does a course in nutrition have to do with what a ped sees thousnds of parents doing over the course of his/her career?
it's an assinine comment to make IMHO.
and I'll let you mull over your last comment. I am sure you are smart enough to answer that yourself. an ER doctor sees thousands of patients a year, but he doesn't have the knowlege or the skill to cure them all...just enough to pass them on to someone who DOES.
a pediatritian is NOT a nutritionist. not a GI doctor. not a soothsayer. not a magician. they too are swayed by their beliefs and their interpretation of the data given to them. if you agree with their interpretation, then that is great.
I do not agree with the interpretation of early feeding due to boredom as a blanket statement.
You can see it how you want, but I dont think it can be disputed that peds deal with thousands of parents over the course of their careers. And they SPEAK to parents, advise parents, get to know parents, etc.
And I am not a ped but I know people in my life, personally, that had ZERO medical reasons to start solids when they did. They just WANTED to. So if I am a regular person who has seen this, why would a ped not see this? I dont think it's a blanket statement but I do think it's a LIKELY common reason many people want to start solids and "rush". Not a medical reason (again, which a ped should be guiding on) but a personal choice.
In addition, I dont think a ped has to be a nutritionist. They do follow current guidelines, are educated in such, deal with nutritrionists, etc. And if you want to go the "peds are not nutritionists" route, then neither are parents (many first time parents as someone above said their ped pointed out). How many parents who have started solids "early" for that matter, saw a true "nutritionist"? If you put so much weight on being a nutritionist, then how many parents actually consult a true professional (again, in your logic)? Its not like you are saying the ped says dont start, but the nutritionist says start. You are simply saying a ped is not a nutritionist. So who then, is to guide a parent on the care of their child? (and I am not saying a ped is the end all be all but I am simply replying to your statement that a ped's advise is not that valuable re infants eating b/c they are not nutritionists).
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
I feel a lot has to do with the maturity of the baby. I personally feel that it is recommended to start at 6 months because that is when most babies are trying to sit up, can sit in something to keep up-right and are not leaning over. He was also FF. DS has allergies to eggs and shellfish. I had him tested at 4 years old.
With my first I was one of those eager mom's and tried cereal at 3 months. My SIL started my nephew at 2 months so I figured why not this was her 3rd. DS wanted no part so I didn't force it. I tried again at 4 months and I received the same reaction. At around 4.5 almost 5 months he ate it with no problem. Then I waited so long between foods and how many times a day he was eating. He gave me a very hard time as 1 year old with food and was extremely picky. From ages 1-3.5 he survived on maybe 8 things that he ate. Even now at 5 he is still picky but is willing to try new things and I stopped giving options.
With my second, I tried at the same time and again she was ready around 4.5 months. I introduced new foods to her sooner and by 6 months she tried everything. By 7 months I was giving her table foods and by I want to 9 months she was completely on table foods. I EBF her and had no issues. I had her tested at 5.5 months for allergies and she is allergic to dairy and eggs. Her skin was bad from her first weeks of life from what I was eating.
Now, with number 3, she will be 4 months on Saturday and I plan trying in about 2 weeks. Will see.
I also sometimes wonder about formula. I mean my parents were given straight milk (goat's milk for my dad and cow's milk for my mom) since my grandmother's couldn't nurse. They are all fine.
Bottom line, I think you as a parent know your child best and you need to do what you feel is right.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
I don't buy it.
DS started solids around 5 months - he is an excellent eater. No allergies, is in the 50% for weight - and has been since he was born.
A few other posters mentioned introducing foods earlier to avoid allergies. I believe in this more than I believe in delaying.
My ped wanted me to wait until 6 months more for asphyxiation than anything else.
Also, as much as I love our Ped, I'm the mom and I will follow my gut instinct regarding certain situations. It is after all my child. DS was ready to start solids before the 6 month mark and I felt comfortable doing it. He did great!!
I also believe that diabetes has more to do with genetics - jmo. We feed DS lots of veggies and fruits, he enjoys a cookie here and there, but we monitor his sugar intake for the day.
If you're going to feed junk food, than you're going to be dealing with the likes of diabetes and obesity...cause and effect.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by maybeamommy
the one thing i really don't agree with is that BIG babies need to start solids earlier.
Loey was always in the 99th percentile for weight and at 6 months was 21 lbs, 15 ounces.
We didn't start solids until 6 months. He definitely did not NEED it. He was EBF and THRIVING!
I FF and DD was also 21 lbs at 6 months. I don't know if FF vs EBF is the difference but my DD needed something other then formula. The amount of ounces it got up to was ridiculous plus she was fussy and hungry all the time. Once we started solids, her whole temperament changed and she actually started eating less then when I was giving her only formula.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Goobster
You can see it how you want, but I dont think it can be disputed that peds deal with thousands of parents over the course of their careers. And they SPEAK to parents, advise parents, get to know parents, etc.
And I am not a ped but I know people in my life, personally, that had ZERO medical reasons to start solids when they did. They just WANTED to. So if I am a regular person who has seen this, why would a ped not see this? I dont think it's a blanket statement but I do think it's a LIKELY common reason many people want to start solids and "rush". Not a medical reason (again, which a ped should be guiding on) but a personal choice.
In addition, I dont think a ped has to be a nutritionist. They do follow current guidelines, are educated in such, deal with nutritrionists, etc. And if you want to go the "peds are not nutritionists" route, then neither are parents (many first time parents as someone above said their ped pointed out). How many parents who have started solids "early" for that matter, saw a true "nutritionist"? If you put so much weight on being a nutritionist, then how many parents actually consult a true professional (again, in your logic)? Its not like you are saying the ped says dont start, but the nutritionist says start. You are simply saying a ped is not a nutritionist. So who then, is to guide a parent on the care of their child? (and I am not saying a ped is the end all be all but I am simply replying to your statement that a ped's advise is not that valuable re infants eating b/c they are not nutritionists).
what is a "medical reason" to start food?
most people do not consult a true professional about what they eat. most people use what they would call "common sense" to determine what they eat and what their children eat.
It's not my place to determine who should guide the care of any other child except my own. I will say that in MY home, with MY child, what *I* believe he should eat and when is who guides his nutritional journey in this world. based on MY research and MY intrepretation and what *I* see and know and feel.
My ped didn't bat an eye when I started my son on 1 tbsp of cereal a day at 4 months. another ped in the practice gave me a lecture for it (which I every so quickly refuted with my own research that was contrary to what he espoused) same practice, two different interpretations of how to nutritionally care for a child.
I am good with my decision. I have no need whatsoever, to belittle that of others.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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what is a "medical reason" to start food?
Medical reason is any reason your ped feels your child NEEDS solids earlier than the average child. So whatever that may be.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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Babies don't need anything but breast milk until they reach 6 months. That was my motto and I stock with it despite my pediatrician advice that I can start them both on cereal and apple puree at 5 months old.
I am convinced that the choices we as parents make for out kids when they are just a few hours old influence their eating habits, as well as eating habits of their own children, for the rest of their lives.
ITA with all of this!
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Ophelia
most people use what they would call "common sense" to determine what they eat and what their children eat.
But not everyone has common sense. To me it's NOT common sense to try to feed a child that can't even sit up in a high chair, solids. But yes, loads of people DO try to feed those children solids. That's why guidelines exist. To GUIDE people who are uneducated or inexperienced in a subject.
This is not referring to you or what you do, or anyone else specifically here. But you can't deny that a ped would KNOW and have seen many parents who have no medical basis for wanting to start solids and just want to do the next thing. Or their parents tell them what they "used to do" back in the day, with early feeding, etc and they do what their parents did.
Of course in the end, a parent makes their choice but it IS a ped's job to guide people re the care of their infants. After that, people do what they want.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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what is a "medical reason" to start food?
Medical reason is any reason your ped feels your child NEEDS solids earlier than the average child. So whatever that may be.
here is a medical reason
there is only a certain amount of fluids an infants body can safely process in one day.
once the child maxes out and is still hungry, it's time for something heavier in that belly.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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I am convinced that the choices we as parents make for out kids when they are just a few hours old influence their eating habits, as well as eating habits of their own children, for the rest of their lives.
ITA with all of this!
I agree with this too. and I invite anyone on this thread to come to MY home and watch my early fed child eat.
I'll skype it if that is easier. 
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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most people use what they would call "common sense" to determine what they eat and what their children eat.
Goob, the guidelines start at 4 months.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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what is a "medical reason" to start food?
Medical reason is any reason your ped feels your child NEEDS solids earlier than the average child. So whatever that may be.
here is a medical reason
there is only a certain amount of fluids an infants body can safely process in one day.
once the child maxes out and is still hungry, it's time for something heavier in that belly.
This.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by WhatNow
Babies don't need anything but breast milk until they reach 6 months. That was my motto and I stock with it despite my pediatrician advice that I can start them both on cereal and apple puree at 5 months old.
I am convinced that the choices we as parents make for out kids when they are just a few hours old influence their eating habits, as well as eating habits of their own children, for the rest of their lives.
What if they are exclusively formula fed?
What are the guidelines then?
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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What if they are exclusively formula fed?
What are the guidelines then?
then your baby is already doomed and you can do whatever you want!
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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What if they are exclusively formula fed?
What are the guidelines then?
then your baby is already doomed and you can do whatever you want!
Exactly.
I guess I made that decision in the "first hours" of her life.
Actually it was the first minutes.
The nurse said- are you breast feeding?
And I yelled out NO!
I guess I can start feeding her McD's now- I mean what difference does it make right?
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Tilde
I know people are getting annoyed at the boredom comment. LOL obviously.
But just wanted to say that is exactly what my doctor told me, and not what I personally believe!
Yeah me too, I think the Ped meant that it seemed like something new and exciting to do with your kid.
Cute comments though about finding hobbies...
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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what is a "medical reason" to start food?
Medical reason is any reason your ped feels your child NEEDS solids earlier than the average child. So whatever that may be.
here is a medical reason
there is only a certain amount of fluids an infants body can safely process in one day.
once the child maxes out and is still hungry, it's time for something heavier in that belly.
Then why did you ask me what was a medical reason if you already had one?
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
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what is a "medical reason" to start food?
Medical reason is any reason your ped feels your child NEEDS solids earlier than the average child. So whatever that may be.
here is a medical reason
there is only a certain amount of fluids an infants body can safely process in one day.
once the child maxes out and is still hungry, it's time for something heavier in that belly.
Right, and that may be an exception that warrants starting solids before 6 months and something a Ped would recommend. I don't think anyone is disagreeing that there are exceptions to this... but I think as research develops, the conclusion that they're finding is most babies do not need solids before 6 months.
This is no different than new research showing that babies should be rear-facing in their carseats beginnign at 2. Sure, people haven't always done this and no one got hurt, but why wouldn't you take advantage of new information if you can?
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