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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Ophelia
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most people use what they would call "common sense" to determine what they eat and what their children eat.
Goob, the guidelines start at 4 months.
Everything I am reading seems to say more so 6 mths (4-6 but closer to 6). That was always my impression or what I was told.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by melbalalala
Right, and that may be an exception that warrants starting solids before 6 months and something a Ped would recommend. I don't think anyone is disagreeing that there are exceptions to this... but I think as research develops, the conclusion that they're finding is most babies do not need solids before 6 months.
This is no different than new research showing that babies should be rear-facing in their carseats beginnign at 2. Sure, people haven't always done this and no one got hurt, but why wouldn't you take advantage of new information if you can?
there is all sorts of research out there. there is research that shows delaying food *could* cause allergies and there is research in direct conflict with that.
research showing the mechanics of a crash and the mechanics of the spinal cord and neck muscles are harder to refute. it's really not to be compared imo.
the conclusion they are finding is that HOLY **** OUR KIDS ARE FAT.
I wager there are not many INFANTS diagnosed with diabetes. that comes later. after sweets/fast food/snack traps have been introduced.
I do my research. my kid started food between 4-5 months b/c he was ready for it. he's also 21 months and still rear facing. b/c that is the best thing I can do for his safety. as cereal was the best thing I could do for his belly.
I am not bored. I am not against research pointing to a new way. I am not lacking too much in the common sense dept.
what I am...is mother to a child on the thin side who eats better than most adults I know, with no food allergies and who is happy as a clam.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by melbalalala
Right, and that may be an exception that warrants starting solids before 6 months and something a Ped would recommend. I don't think anyone is disagreeing that there are exceptions to this... but I think as research develops, the conclusion that they're finding is most babies do not need solids before 6 months.
This is no different than new research showing that babies should be rear-facing in their carseats beginnign at 2. Sure, people haven't always done this and no one got hurt, but why wouldn't you take advantage of new information if you can?
there is all sorts of research out there. there is research that shows delaying food *could* cause allergies and there is research in direct conflict with that.
research showing the mechanics of a crash and the mechanics of the spinal cord and neck muscles are harder to refute. it's really not to be compared imo.
the conclusion they are finding is that HOLY **** OUR KIDS ARE FAT.
I wager there are not many INFANTS diagnosed with diabetes. that comes later. after sweets/fast food/snack traps have been introduced.
I do my research. my kid started food between 4-5 months b/c he was ready for it. he's also 21 months and still rear facing. b/c that is the best thing I can do for his safety. as cereal was the best thing I could do for his belly.
I am not bored. I am not against research pointing to a new way. I am not lacking too much in the common sense dept.
what I am...is mother to a child on the thin side who eats better than most adults I know, with no food allergies and who is happy as a clam.
This is definitely one of those do your research, check with your Ped, do what you both think is right things. There are a million of them as parents and while most of them will make our kids morbidly obese or give them cancer, the others will hopefully counteract that and we'll all have healthy children.
I don't think there is anything wrong with researching infant feeding as a possible cause of childhood obesity; they have to start somewhere. I don't think it's crazy to hypothesize that starting solids too early introduces flavors, textures, and feelings of fullness early and could lead to problems later. Sure, people did rice cereal in the bottle way back when at 6 weeks, but then the same kids didn't have cheetos at their disposal at 6 years... it could be a combination of a bunch of things, one that might just be feeding solids to babies too early that just don't need them.. this doesn't mean that everyone should regret giving solids early, it's just something for future parents to think about when figuring out what's best for their new babies.
I don't think this is a topic to get hot and bothered about.. I'd save that for potty training too early or BF vs. FF.
In fact, I would have guessed it would have bored us all so much we'd want to go feed our kids...
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Lisa982006
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the one thing i really don't agree with is that BIG babies need to start solids earlier.
Loey was always in the 99th percentile for weight and at 6 months was 21 lbs, 15 ounces.
We didn't start solids until 6 months. He definitely did not NEED it. He was EBF and THRIVING!
I FF and DD was also 21 lbs at 6 months. I don't know if FF vs EBF is the difference but my DD needed something other then formula. The amount of ounces it got up to was ridiculous plus she was fussy and hungry all the time. Once we started solids, her whole temperament changed and she actually started eating less then when I was giving her only formula.
I HATE the suggestion that bigger babies need to eat more because it's just not true. I have no doubt that your DD needed to be fed when she was, but it's not because she's big. I'm sure if she was a petite little 15lbs she'd still have needed the food.
I have 2 huge babies.. DD was 20lbs at 6 months and my moose son was about ~24lbs at 6 months. I had a babysitter who would try to FORCE FEED my DD - the woman was morbidly obese and I swear to GOD she thought my DD should be the same. She used to tell me that my DD was 'one of them' and not like me. Her whole family is huge. DD started solids at 4 months because of the babysitter's insistence but I don't think she needed to. I caved because I didn't trust the babysitter not to do it behind my back (and she had plenty of allergies as a baby).
DS was different. I tried so hard to wait until he was 6 months old but it just wasn't happening because he was really hungry. He wanted food and he was taking more formula than he needed to compensate.
My friend has 2 girls who were at birth the exact same weight as both my kids were (weird but true) and neither of them ever ate like mine did. She fed the first one early and the second one late. It was what they needed. Actually, her first has very serious allergies (dairy, wheat, nuts) and my friend is convinced that early feeding is what caused it because she wasn't ready but everyone told her she should feed her DD solids because she was big.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
I am actually convinced I caused my son's early dairy sensitivity b/c cheese was one of the few things I could eat while pregnant and I ate a ton of it.
I am just not a fan of blanket statements. especially assinine blanket statement.
at the end of the day, if YOU feel your child is not ready, then your child is not ready. if you feel your child is ready, your child is ready.
I think nutrition IS something all peds should be versed in OR perhaps all ped's offices should have resident nutritionists we as parents can consult as needed. We are ignorant to our own detriment.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Both of my kids started solids around 5 mos and have no allergies or anything else. With DS my ped recommended it because he was a poor sleeper...didn't work. With DD i started her at that age because she wanted food when we were eating. DS ate everything and anything until age 2 and is now a cr@ppy eater because he was my only child and I allowed him to be. I wont be making that mistake with DD.
And the comment about putting a baby that can't sit up on their own in a high chair made me wonder.......why do highchairs recline if a child should be sitting up before you give them solids?
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by eroxgirl
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Posted by maybeamommy
the one thing i really don't agree with is that BIG babies need to start solids earlier.
Loey was always in the 99th percentile for weight and at 6 months was 21 lbs, 15 ounces.
We didn't start solids until 6 months. He definitely did not NEED it. He was EBF and THRIVING!
I FF and DD was also 21 lbs at 6 months. I don't know if FF vs EBF is the difference but my DD needed something other then formula. The amount of ounces it got up to was ridiculous plus she was fussy and hungry all the time. Once we started solids, her whole temperament changed and she actually started eating less then when I was giving her only formula.
I HATE the suggestion that bigger babies need to eat more because it's just not true. I have no doubt that your DD needed to be fed when she was, but it's not because she's big. I'm sure if she was a petite little 15lbs she'd still have needed the food.
I have 2 huge babies.. DD was 20lbs at 6 months and my moose son was about ~24lbs at 6 months. I had a babysitter who would try to FORCE FEED my DD - the woman was morbidly obese and I swear to GOD she thought my DD should be the same. She used to tell me that my DD was 'one of them' and not like me. Her whole family is huge. DD started solids at 4 months because of the babysitter's insistence but I don't think she needed to. I caved because I didn't trust the babysitter not to do it behind my back (and she had plenty of allergies as a baby).
DS was different. I tried so hard to wait until he was 6 months old but it just wasn't happening because he was really hungry. He wanted food and he was taking more formula than he needed to compensate.
My friend has 2 girls who were at birth the exact same weight as both my kids were (weird but true) and neither of them ever ate like mine did. She fed the first one early and the second one late. It was what they needed. Actually, her first has very serious allergies (dairy, wheat, nuts) and my friend is convinced that early feeding is what caused it because she wasn't ready but everyone told her she should feed her DD solids because she was big.
It is true for SOME babies and mine is one of them. You can "Hate" the suggestion if you want just because it didnt pertain to YOUR DC but that doesnt mean it cant be true for others. My ped specifically told me to start her on solids at around 4 months because she was the SIZE OF AN 8 MONTH old. Would you NOT feed an 8 MONTH OLD solids??? Now she is 7 months and she is the size of a 12 month old. Shes not fat (look in my album for pics) shes just very tall and broad like her mother.
To each their own. My DC needed the solids and thats the bottom line whether people on LIF or these research articles agree with it or not. I dont believe in treating babies like they are anything other then human. Im giving her FOOD. We all need it to live.
ETA: because I re-read your post, I want to add that I do believe she needed it BECAUSE she is bigger. I honestly believe if she were a more average size for her age, then she would not have. I know other babies around her age that are not as big and they did not need as much to eat as she does. For the first 5 months, she gained 3 pounds a month. Thats way more then most. Maybe it was a spurt, I dont know but I do know that now that the weight gain has slowed down, she eats less.
I really dont want to argue with anyone so Im done 
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Really, some people are so judgmental around here, its ridiculous.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by NervousNell
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Babies don't need anything but breast milk until they reach 6 months. That was my motto and I stock with it despite my pediatrician advice that I can start them both on cereal and apple puree at 5 months old.
I am convinced that the choices we as parents make for out kids when they are just a few hours old influence their eating habits, as well as eating habits of their own children, for the rest of their lives.
What if they are exclusively formula fed?
What are the guidelines then?
That I do not know... I EBFed so I know nothing about formula. I am sure there is helpful information out there about that as well... Logically, if formula is suppose to be closely based on breast milk in nutritional value, I would imagine the same goes for EFF babies... just a guess.
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Goobster
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by MaMaTeenie
And the comment about putting a baby that can't sit up on their own in a high chair made me wonder.......why do highchairs recline if a child should be sitting up before you give them solids?
B/c some babies fall asleep AFTER they eat or while eating so you can recline them to sleep instead of removing them from the high chair. I highly doubt it's b/c a child that cannot fully hold his or her head or sit up on their own, should be laid back to eat solids.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Why is it that anytime food is involved everyone takes things so personally and we bicker like cats and dogs?
Whether it's did you start solid before 6 months or breast feeding vs formula, organic versus non, how often we have McDonalds etc etc etc
I think the real issue is that fact that we are so freaking obsessed with what we eat and how much we are eating-there is just too much emphasis on food
Maybe if we just calm down a little bit, our kids won't grow up to be as obsessed with food as we are and maybe, just maybe they can develop normal eating patterns and not feel they need to eat 6 devil dogs in the closet out of fear that their brothers will eat them all before they have a chance to have 1.
Randy Random tangent.
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by CrankyPants
Why is it that anytime food is involved everyone takes things so personally and we bicker like cats and dogs?
Whether it's did you start solid before 6 months or breast feeding vs formula, organic versus non, how often we have McDonalds etc etc etc
I think the real issue is that fact that we are so freaking obsessed with what we eat and how much we are eating-there is just too much emphasis on food
Maybe if we just calm down a little bit, our kids won't grow up to be as obsessed with food as we are and maybe, just maybe they can develop normal eating patterns and not feel they need to eat 6 devil dogs in the closet out of fear that their brothers will eat them all before they have a chance to have 1.
Randy Random tangent.
In honor of your cranky post, I will have a devil dog today! 
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by Tilde
Posted by CrankyPants
Why is it that anytime food is involved everyone takes things so personally and we bicker like cats and dogs?
Whether it's did you start solid before 6 months or breast feeding vs formula, organic versus non, how often we have McDonalds etc etc etc
I think the real issue is that fact that we are so freaking obsessed with what we eat and how much we are eating-there is just too much emphasis on food
Maybe if we just calm down a little bit, our kids won't grow up to be as obsessed with food as we are and maybe, just maybe they can develop normal eating patterns and not feel they need to eat 6 devil dogs in the closet out of fear that their brothers will eat them all before they have a chance to have 1.
Randy Random tangent.
In honor of your cranky post, I will have a devil dog today!
I still love those things
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by CrankyPants
Why is it that anytime food is involved everyone takes things so personally and we bicker like cats and dogs?
Whether it's did you start solid before 6 months or breast feeding vs formula, organic versus non, how often we have McDonalds etc etc etc
I think the real issue is that fact that we are so freaking obsessed with what we eat and how much we are eating-there is just too much emphasis on food
Maybe if we just calm down a little bit, our kids won't grow up to be as obsessed with food as we are and maybe, just maybe they can develop normal eating patterns and not feel they need to eat 6 devil dogs in the closet out of fear that their brothers will eat them all before they have a chance to have 1.
Randy Random tangent.
My favorite part of this post is "bicker like cats and dogs!"
I just picture a dog and cat sitting there bickering and fighting about how the cat weaned her kittens from her boobies too early!
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Re: interesting article about starting solids at 6 months
Posted by CrankyPants
Why is it that anytime food is involved everyone takes things so personally and we bicker like cats and dogs?
Whether it's did you start solid before 6 months or breast feeding vs formula, organic versus non, how often we have McDonalds etc etc etc
I think the real issue is that fact that we are so freaking obsessed with what we eat and how much we are eating-there is just too much emphasis on food
Maybe if we just calm down a little bit, our kids won't grow up to be as obsessed with food as we are and maybe, just maybe they can develop normal eating patterns and not feel they need to eat 6 devil dogs in the closet out of fear that their brothers will eat them all before they have a chance to have 1.
Randy Random tangent.
I was wondering why this thread was STILL at the top.
My god, can we just stop. 
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