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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by dm24angel
Right..Many dont WANT to do it. Probably no one WANTS to do it.

2 months ago life was fine. then my husband lost his Over time and that monthly income was our Rent and 2 or more bills, suddenly not there...and then we find out we are PG...and are trying so hard to be happy while faced with these hard times.

Im not seeking pity or sympathy, Im showing you how it happens, how eeasily it happens to the average person.

And how hard it hurts when judged without background knowledge.




i agree that things can happen to the average person---and sometimes you get surprises. but i think i get more annoyed with those who CONTINUE to have "accidents" -- teens who are 17 or 18--having a baby...then continuing to have babies one after another--like they are surprised they are fertile. Chat Icon then they barely have the tools to handle life -- and they are bringing multiple lives into the world, and not being able to support them.....prioritize and figure out how to run a household and put food on the table.

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by Gertyrae

Wow...the turn of this thread saddens me.
How do you know these people are spending $$$ at a carnival or stealing gift cards or milking the system?

They were trying to use a gift card to buy items, not food stamps. And apparently they were on the phone with the person who gave them the card and were embarrassed when there was no $$ on it and ran out.

Sometimes people just fall on hard times. How do you know this wasn't a couple who had just lost their job or some other such thing? How many people on here have asked for help and received it? The economy right now sux...anything could be happening to them right now. I have friends who just had to do a short sell on their house cuz they were going to lose it. He's been a handyman/home improvement guy for 20 years and business just dropped off. They couldn't pay their mortgage and refinanced in the hopes that business would pick up again, which didn't happen. She went a got a job and he got a job, but they just couldn't make the payments. They aren't milking the system, but they fell on hard times. They aren't bad people and have always paid their bills with some $$$ in savings and it all kind of ran out on them.


I would have been with Kelly, instead of judging - I probably would have felt bad that I didn't jump in to help.



Gerty,
I think you're seeing a situation sort of spin out of control. I'm sure if I had been with Kelly and seen what happened I would have felt the same way.

I have been there and HAVE given the person in front of me a couple of bucks when I could if it meant helping out a fellow citizen. But I gatherd from the OP that this was a young couple with a young child (since they were buying diapers) and with one on the way.

As I said, I understand accidents happen, but if you're (and I don't mean YOU but just the general YOU) in a position of having to pay for groceries with a gift card from someone else and you're buying bare bone necessities then yes, maybe this girl and her DH or BF should have thought twice about possibly using BC and not bringing another child and more financial responsibility onto themselves.

As I said earlier, I get that people do fall on hard times and sometimes need assistance, but to be in that position and bring more children into that situation, I feel is irresponsible.

My husband is a contractor, believe me, I completely understand what it's like to feel the pinch with this economy and I count my blessings EVERYDAY he goes out to work and brings home a paycheck but again, b/c of the economy and having gone through some financial rough spots we're holding off. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Posted 8/17/08 10:23 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

thanks for all of the replies, everyone is entitled to their point of view.
I just really feel sad that people right here around us OUR NEIGHBORS, are facing such hard times. I've struggled plenty in my life, raised my son myself for 13 years with no child support.
It just pulls at my heart strings to think there might not be more diapers for that child Chat Icon , a pregnant woman, no matter if she "should or shouldn't" be pregnant shouldn't be hungry. I feel bad I didn't reach out to them before they left Chat Icon

My DH runs a very successful company that builds houses in the Hamptons. He says he has at least 15 men walk on his jobs everyday basically begging for work, he's had grown men cry-tell him their story about their kids & how hard things are. He's had guys from as far away as New Jersey, hoping things are better in the Hamptons.
There isn't enough work to go around right now. The guy today that picked up the desk reminded us of that.

Be thankful for what you have & don't assume people that have less don't deserve more.

Posted 8/17/08 10:26 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by Gertyrae

Wow...the turn of this thread saddens me.
How do you know these people are spending $$$ at a carnival or stealing gift cards or milking the system?

They were trying to use a gift card to buy items, not food stamps. And apparently they were on the phone with the person who gave them the card and were embarrassed when there was no $$ on it and ran out.

Sometimes people just fall on hard times. How do you know this wasn't a couple who had just lost their job or some other such thing? How many people on here have asked for help and received it? The economy right now sux...anything could be happening to them right now. I have friends who just had to do a short sell on their house cuz they were going to lose it. He's been a handyman/home improvement guy for 20 years and business just dropped off. They couldn't pay their mortgage and refinanced in the hopes that business would pick up again, which didn't happen. She went a got a job and he got a job, but they just couldn't make the payments. They aren't milking the system, but they fell on hard times. They aren't bad people and have always paid their bills with some $$$ in savings and it all kind of ran out on them.


I would have been with Kelly, instead of judging - I probably would have felt bad that I didn't jump in to help.



Thank you to you and dm24angel for making these points. I think it says a lot about our society when we see someone struggling like that and just automatically assume the worst. We have no idea what their circumstances are. I remember when my DH and I first moved in together, we were going through some very rough financial times. One time we were in a similar situation where a couple in front of us was trying to decide what to buy because they only had so much to spend. I turned to my husband and said I suddenly felt lucky because even though we didn't have money to go out with friends or buy new clothes, we could at least buy food.

There are people who fall in to some really tough times at no fault of their own. Maybe they did use birth control and happened to get pregnant. It's possible. Maybe she's having the baby and giving it up for adoption. We have no idea, and therefore shouldn't judge. Sure, they could also be shacking up in a crappy apartment spending what money they have on drugs and booze. We just don't know. Either way, it is still sad that there are two young people and a baby that are suffering. It just makes me all that more appreciative of what I have.

Posted 8/17/08 10:28 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by KellyFG

thanks for all of the replies, everyone is entitled to their point of view.
I just really feel sad that people right here around us OUR NEIGHBORS, are facing such hard times. I've struggled plenty in my life, raised my son myself for 13 years with no child support.
It just pulls at my heart strings to think there might not be more diapers for that child Chat Icon , a pregnant woman, no matter if she "should or shouldn't" be pregnant shouldn't be hungry. I feel bad I didn't reach out to them before they left Chat Icon

My DH runs a very successful company that builds houses in the Hamptons. He says he has at least 15 men walk on his jobs everyday basically begging for work, he's had grown men cry-tell him their story about their kids & how hard things are. He's had guys from as far away as New Jersey, hoping things are better in the Hamptons.
There isn't enough work to go around right now. The guy today that picked up the desk reminded us of that.

Be thankful for what you have & don't assume people that have less don't deserve more.



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Posted 8/17/08 10:28 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

DSS should partner up with grocery stores so when situations like this happen, the cashier can discretely hand them a pamphlet about WIC or Food Stamps. Of course then people will bash that they have children and can't afford to feed them without the government's help. Sometimes you just can't win, but punishing the children probably isn't a good idea being that they are "America's future"

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Posted 8/17/08 10:30 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

My point is that there is no way to know circumstances. And to judge and say it's wrong or that they are bad people is a little unfair. Especially in this economy.
My boss and his wife got PG with their second child when she forgot to take her pill for one day - ONE DAY....she took two the next day, never got her period, tested and was PG. The shock of a lifetime, but it happens...

If I saw someone trying to buy soda and junk food with food stamps, I might be more judgemental. But to say what's being said about a couple that was seen for all of five/ten minutes it's unfair IMO...

We all would like to have children in the ideal situation, but mistakes happen or bad things happen to good people, and sometimes it just doesn't work that way.

Posted 8/17/08 10:30 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

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Be thankful for what you have & don't assume people that have less don't deserve more.




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Posted 8/17/08 10:32 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by MrsPJB2007

i agree that things can happen to the average person---and sometimes you get surprises. but i think i get more annoyed with those who CONTINUE to have "accidents" -- teens who are 17 or 18--having a baby...then continuing to have babies one after another--like they are surprised they are fertile. Chat Icon then they barely have the tools to handle life -- and they are bringing multiple lives into the world, and not being able to support them.....prioritize and figure out how to run a household and put food on the table.




I gave birth to my son when I was barely 17 years old, I swore to myself & I my parents I'd never have another child until I could handle it....I kept my promise. Now I'm almost 40, married for 6 years & I've only given birth to one child....not exactly what I planned either. I agree, it would be great if all young, unwed mothers held off on having more children until they could handle it, but that's not reality. Things don't always go as planned.

Posted 8/17/08 10:35 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by KellyFG
Be thankful for what you have & don't assume people that have less don't deserve more.



I don't think there's anyone here who isn't grateful for what they have nor do I think it's just assumed that if someone has less than me they don't deserve more.

I do, however, think there are people here, who struggle with the fact that there are irresponsible people out there. I'm not saying the people you saw today fall into that category but there are people out there that do and to me that's very frustrating.

I'm honestly curious, why didn't you say or do something to help the couple in front of you? I'm not asking to start something, I'm just asking a question.

Posted 8/17/08 10:40 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by Gertyrae

My point is that there is no way to know circumstances. And to judge and say it's wrong or that they are bad people is a little unfair. Especially in this economy.
My boss and his wife got PG with their second child when she forgot to take her pill for one day - ONE DAY....she took two the next day, never got her period, tested and was PG. The shock of a lifetime, but it happens...

If I saw someone trying to buy soda and junk food with food stamps, I might be more judgemental. But to say what's being said about a couple that was seen for all of five/ten minutes it's unfair IMO...

We all would like to have children in the ideal situation, but mistakes happen or bad things happen to good people, and sometimes it just doesn't work that way.




But that's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone was judging this couple. It spun into people talking about other situations that have come up where people have been blatently abusing the system simply b/c they can.

Posted 8/17/08 10:43 PM
 

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Posted by KellyFG

I gave birth to my son when I was barely 17 years old, I swore to myself & I my parents I'd never have another child until I could handle it....I kept my promise. Now I'm almost 40, married for 6 years & I've only given birth to one child....not exactly what I planned either. I agree, it would be great if all young, unwed mothers held off on having more children until they could handle it, but that's not reality. Things don't always go as planned.




See now I applaud you--because you are NOT what I'm talking about at all. You had a child at a young age--but you stepped up the responsibility and raised your child and made sure that you did not have another one until you were prepared. You deserve Chat Icon for working your @ss off to do what you did.

And you're right, I probably shouldn't judge anyone's situation, but perhaps I'm very cynical and hardened from seeing the type of people I'm talking about not only in my own family, but my disgusting in-laws, as well as the stories my DH comes home with working as a police officer in the city. I watched as my Aunt brought 8 kids (7 different fathers) into the world and she hasn't held a job in about 35 years....she'd cry poverty and ask for assistance, but never felt like she should actually have to WORK. Chat Icon Her kids have followed in her foot steps--and also have had children starting in their teens and just keep on popping them out.

My DH's "step-mom" (I use the term loosely) gave birth to her 1st child at 14---and kept on for a total of 9 children. once again, never worked or bothered to care much about raising her kids....because the government will pay. She never stopped and said "Well maybe I should make sure I can provide for my family and stop having kids"

When I see very young couples with kids and another on the way--I think of my family and ILs and such, and while I undersatnd how the seeing such a couple would upset someone and feel bad for not helping--I can't help but wonder if they got into the situation they are in, because of their own doing, as I've seen time and time and time again.

Posted 8/17/08 10:43 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by KellyFG
I agree, it would be great if all young, unwed mothers held off on having more children until they could handle it, but that's not reality. Things don't always go as planned.



Yes, this is definitely true, but I think the rub is that we're all busting our butts to make ends meet (and sometimes this is BARELY the case) and pay our taxes and there are people living on the system, funded by our taxes not doing a darn thing about it to get off.

That's frustrating to me. Heck, my husband and I could completely disregard our financial responsibility and just do what we want and go on public assistance too, but instead we made a choice to hold off and do the financially responsible things.

My husband and I have been together for 10 YEARS, we've NEVER had an accident.

So yes, it's frustrating when I see a 16 year old with a child in a stroller and pregnant, holding a cigarette in her perfectly manicured, acrylic tipped hands, talking to on her razor cell phone to someone about needing to go get food stamps.

Yes, I have seen that EXACT situation with my OWN two eyes and ears and it makes my blood boil.

Posted 8/17/08 10:49 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

To me, these statements are judgemental...

I get very frustrated when I see things like that. IMO it's very irresponsible.

but it seems to be typical of young people these days that they had Nextel phones and no money for food.

Everyone says oh, you cant wait to be financially stable or you'd never have kids, but guess what, you should be stable enough to afford food, diapers, medicine, and a roof for your children. It's sad that their irresponsibility is affecting a baby who may be going hungry. Don't get me started on people who continue to have children when they cant afford the ones they have.

I don't want to sound mean either but these are the people you see at the local carnival spending at least $100 on rides, games and food.

Those of us who are lucky enough to still have our jobs, homes and family don't have to deal with poverty, but God forbid something happens to your job, home or family...it can change extremely quickly. I know, I've lived it.

Posted 8/17/08 10:51 PM
 

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I don't think there's anyone here who isn't grateful for what they have nor do I think it's just assumed that if someone has less than me they don't deserve more.

I'm honestly curious, why didn't you say or do something to help the couple in front of you? I'm not asking to start something, I'm just asking a question.



I do think people assumed that cell phones are luxuries and other off topic comments about recreation.
I started the post because its still bothering me that I didn't act fast enough. I had 5 dollars in my hand so they could get the rest of the spagetti-os, I was thinking"how can I be discrete, I hope I don't insult them", then the card got declined, I was locked in the checkout lane behind my basket & they were embarrassed & left quickly, I really feel like I should have followed them but it happened so fast.
So since I'm answering yours, I'll ask you.
What would you have done differently in my situation?

Posted 8/17/08 10:53 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

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Posted by KellyFG
I agree, it would be great if all young, unwed mothers held off on having more children until they could handle it, but that's not reality. Things don't always go as planned.



Yes, this is definitely true, but I think the rub is that we're all busting our butts to make ends meet (and sometimes this is BARELY the case) and pay our taxes and there are people living on the system, funded by our taxes not doing a darn thing about it to get off.

That's frustrating to me. Heck, my husband and I could completely disregard our financial responsibility and just do what we want and go on public assistance too, but instead we made a choice to hold off and do the financially responsible things.

My husband and I have been together for 10 YEARS, we've NEVER had an accident.

So yes, it's frustrating when I see a 16 year old with a child in a stroller and pregnant, holding a cigarette in her perfectly manicured, acrylic tipped hands, talking to on her razor cell phone to someone about needing to go get food stamps.

Yes, I have seen that EXACT situation with my OWN two eyes and ears and it makes my blood boil.




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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by Gertyrae

To me, these statements are judgemental...

I get very frustrated when I see things like that. IMO it's very irresponsible.

but it seems to be typical of young people these days that they had Nextel phones and no money for food.

Everyone says oh, you cant wait to be financially stable or you'd never have kids, but guess what, you should be stable enough to afford food, diapers, medicine, and a roof for your children. It's sad that their irresponsibility is affecting a baby who may be going hungry. Don't get me started on people who continue to have children when they cant afford the ones they have.

I don't want to sound mean either but these are the people you see at the local carnival spending at least $100 on rides, games and food.

Those of us who are lucky enough to still have our jobs, homes and family don't have to deal with poverty, but God forbid something happens to your job, home or family...it can change extremely quickly. I know, I've lived it.



As far as I took it, those comments were made generally speaking about those who "abuse" the system. I know my comments (which are some that you listed above) were.

If you feel I'm being judgemental, ok, that's fine. But we all are to some extent.

You said you would be more judegmental if they were buying junkfood or soda with food stamps but really who are any of us to say what someone who's using foodstamps should and shouldn't buy?

My point is to some extent we're all judgemental, I believe it's part of having an opinion. It doesn't make it right but I think that's just the way it is.

Posted 8/17/08 10:57 PM
 

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I don't disagree with everyone being judgemental. Of course we all are to some respect.

What I said in my initial post and will reiterate now is that I am saddened by the turn this thread has taken....still.

Kelly was posting about a sad situation and how she would have liked to help, didn't and it was still bothering her. It then turned into a thread about people getting PG and abusing "the system", etc.

And yes, I probably would have been judgemental in a different situation, but I don't lump everyone into the same group.

And, I was once in S&S and this young couple in front of me had I don't know how many cans of formula that they were buying with WIC coupons, they didn't have enough $$$ to cover the last can and they left it behind. I told the cashier to add it to our bill and had DH go after them and give them the can. Just like I give food to the food pantry at my church....if I can help someone in need, I will. It's a round world and we just don't know another person's situation by looking at them...nor will we ever

Posted 8/17/08 11:04 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

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So yes, it's frustrating when I see a 16 year old with a child in a stroller and pregnant, holding a cigarette in her perfectly manicured, acrylic tipped hands, talking to on her razor cell phone to someone about needing to go get food stamps.

Yes, I have seen that EXACT situation with my OWN two eyes and ears and it makes my blood boil.



I hear you, I actually went to social services once when my son was around five to ask for "emergency food stamps" because I was in financial straights and had no food money. I was "too proud" to ask to borrow money so I thought I could get a little help. I was told NO after waiting there ALL DAY, because I EARNED something like 7 dollars more in my gross pay than I was allowed in order to qualify. So they let me leave, knowing I only needed temporary help, knowing I had a child & I said we had no food, knowing I had a friggin job...they didn't care.
I understand FULLY how effed up the system is but I still don't think pregnant mothers should be hungry or babies should be without diapers.

Posted 8/17/08 11:05 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by KellyFG

I do think people assumed that cell phones are luxuries and other off topic comments about recreation.
I started the post because its still bothering me that I didn't act fast enough. I had 5 dollars in my hand so they could get the rest of the spagetti-os, I was thinking"how can I be discrete, I hope I don't insult them", then the card got declined, I was locked in the checkout lane behind my basket & they were embarrassed & left quickly, I really feel like I should have followed them but it happened so fast.
So since I'm answering yours, I'll ask you.
What would you have done differently in my situation?



I was in your situation once; I was at the King Kullen in Manorville and this woman was short about 10 bucks.

At the time my husband and I were financially OK so when I saw her start to stammer and look through her purse and look back at the cashier with this blank look on her face, I grabbed my wallet and handed the cashier a $10.

She looked at me and I said, "we've all been there, someone once helped my mom out so now it's my turn."

Yes, she was embarassed, but she thanked me and left the store. I'll be honest, I did feel funny but I know I helped someone out and so hopefully she'll do it when she can. I was lucky though, I load the cart on to the conveyer from the front so I was in back of her cart and in front of mine so phyisically I was in a better position to help in a discreet manor.

If I had been you, I'm not sure what I would have done.

Posted 8/17/08 11:05 PM
 

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Posted by KellyFG
I hear you, I actually went to social services once when my son was around five to ask for "emergency food stamps" because I was in financial straights and had no food money. I was "too proud" to ask to borrow money so I thought I could get a little help. I was told NO after waiting there ALL DAY, because I EARNED something like 7 dollars more in my gross pay than I was allowed in order to qualify. So they let me leave, knowing I only needed temporary help, knowing I had a child & I said we had no food, knowing I had a friggin job...they didn't care.
I understand FULLY how effed up the system is but I still don't think pregnant mothers should be hungry or babies should be without diapers.



See, now THAT breaks my heart! You were doing everything you possibly could and needed some help. The fact that they turned you away makes me sick.

I agree 100% that no one should go hungry nor a baby go without food or diapers. I think it's the fact that our system is clearly flawed that causes great frustration.

Posted 8/17/08 11:22 PM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by Gertyrae

Wow...the turn of this thread saddens me.
How do you know these people are spending $$$ at a carnival or stealing gift cards or milking the system?

They were trying to use a gift card to buy items, not food stamps. And apparently they were on the phone with the person who gave them the card and were embarrassed when there was no $$ on it and ran out.

Sometimes people just fall on hard times. How do you know this wasn't a couple who had just lost their job or some other such thing? How many people on here have asked for help and received it? The economy right now sux...anything could be happening to them right now. I have friends who just had to do a short sell on their house cuz they were going to lose it. He's been a handyman/home improvement guy for 20 years and business just dropped off. They couldn't pay their mortgage and refinanced in the hopes that business would pick up again, which didn't happen. She went a got a job and he got a job, but they just couldn't make the payments. They aren't milking the system, but they fell on hard times. They aren't bad people and have always paid their bills with some $$$ in savings and it all kind of ran out on them.


I would have been with Kelly, instead of judging - I probably would have felt bad that I didn't jump in to help.



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Posted 8/18/08 6:21 AM
 

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Posted by Gertyrae

Wow...the turn of this thread saddens me.
How do you know these people are spending $$$ at a carnival or stealing gift cards or milking the system?

They were trying to use a gift card to buy items, not food stamps. And apparently they were on the phone with the person who gave them the card and were embarrassed when there was no $$ on it and ran out.

Sometimes people just fall on hard times. How do you know this wasn't a couple who had just lost their job or some other such thing? How many people on here have asked for help and received it? The economy right now sux...anything could be happening to them right now. I have friends who just had to do a short sell on their house cuz they were going to lose it. He's been a handyman/home improvement guy for 20 years and business just dropped off. They couldn't pay their mortgage and refinanced in the hopes that business would pick up again, which didn't happen. She went a got a job and he got a job, but they just couldn't make the payments. They aren't milking the system, but they fell on hard times. They aren't bad people and have always paid their bills with some $$$ in savings and it all kind of ran out on them.


I would have been with Kelly, instead of judging - I probably would have felt bad that I didn't jump in to help.



Thank you for saying everything I wanted to say.
How does anyone on here know anyone else's TRUE financial situation? How do you have the right to point fingers and say that "those kinds of people" must do this or that. What if this particular couple lives paycheck to paycheck and just needed to stock up a bit until their next paychecks? And here you are playing the "milking the system" card.

ITA. And for anyone who has been out of work, good luck getting a job without a phone.

I would have felt badly, like the OP, and would have wanted to help.

When life changes in a moment, and sometimes that is all it takes, not everything is as black & white as it seems.

Posted 8/18/08 7:45 AM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

I think everybody has a right to have a different opinion on the situation.

I might be more jugemental. I worked in the city as a teacher and a medic. Not all parents cn you feel sorry for:
On open school night when i sat there and no parents came in unless they needed their ssi disability form signed
or the school that needed to be open to feed the kids breakfast and lunch and the parents that don't get there to pick up there kids on time I'm sure they didn't get stuck at work.

I've seen people in apartments that are low rent or free with the state of the art equipment. they can't afford food but they have big screen tv's, playstation, ect

I think in these times we are all struggling but working hard, making scarficies and doing without for our families and it's hard to see some of my money going to these people when i would like to be home enjoying my kids then out working my a** off!

Message edited 8/18/2008 7:53:20 AM.

Posted 8/18/08 7:52 AM
 

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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me

Posted by BlessedMommy

Posted by Gertyrae

Wow...the turn of this thread saddens me.
How do you know these people are spending $$$ at a carnival or stealing gift cards or milking the system?

They were trying to use a gift card to buy items, not food stamps. And apparently they were on the phone with the person who gave them the card and were embarrassed when there was no $$ on it and ran out.

Sometimes people just fall on hard times. How do you know this wasn't a couple who had just lost their job or some other such thing? How many people on here have asked for help and received it? The economy right now sux...anything could be happening to them right now. I have friends who just had to do a short sell on their house cuz they were going to lose it. He's been a handyman/home improvement guy for 20 years and business just dropped off. They couldn't pay their mortgage and refinanced in the hopes that business would pick up again, which didn't happen. She went a got a job and he got a job, but they just couldn't make the payments. They aren't milking the system, but they fell on hard times. They aren't bad people and have always paid their bills with some $$$ in savings and it all kind of ran out on them.


I would have been with Kelly, instead of judging - I probably would have felt bad that I didn't jump in to help.



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