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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
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Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
Not everyone has that option
Kate, I went to school to do a career change because I knew how it would be in corporate and having kids. For 3 years, I worked FT and went to school PT. I worked my butt off to have this option. It is still not served to me on a silver platter. We don't have any family on LI. No babysitting, etc... It's just DH and I. I work my butt off on weekends to make $$$$ and make up for not having a FT job. I have to make it all up in 2 days. I did what I had to do.
That is great. And I am sure everyone would applaud you for what yu did for your family. But honestly, as a parent its our job to make it work. Exactly...You did what you had to and so do we. Noone is putting you down, but it does seem that you are putting down others without recognizing their circumstances.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
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Posted by Palebride
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Posted by leighla
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Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
And what if there is only one parent? Then what is that parent supposed to do? Work days, nights and weekends to make enough money to save up in case they have to take a day off?
You have an unfortunate circumstance with your child who is prone to illness. But you seriously can't expect other people to alter *their* lifestyle so that *your* son doesn't get sick.
That's just not reasonable. It's not rational. You have to do what is best for you, as others have to do what is best for them.
It's not a matter of not caring or being irresponsible. It's a matter of living your life.
How is that different than stopping peanuts in airplane for people/children who are allergics?
Are you saying that now we should have peanuts and those with peanut allergies should not f
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Are you saying that now we should have peanuts and those with peanut allergies should not fly?
Yes, clearly that's what I'm saying. Screw the sick people so I can live my life.
Thank you for reading so carefully and trying to see what other people are saying.
You're right. We're wrong. We all just send our kids out into the world to get other kids sick. There's actually a club for it.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
I feel this whole thread is a justification party of why people should send their sick kid to school.
Honestly I think you need to realize that what you consider "sick" others consider a typical part of child development.
There are something like 200,000 cold viruses. Immunity is built with each cold- which is one reason why kids catch WAY more colds than adults.
Once a kid goes to school, he CANNOT miss the kind of days that would be missed if he was kept home for every cold. Saying, "well if every kid stayed home when they were sick then no one would get sick" as an argument is just not plausible. Cold viruses are EVERYWHERE. People are often contagious before they even know they have a cold!
Even my pediatrician doesn't recommend keeping DD cooped up at home when she has a cold.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by twicethefun
Posted by smdl
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighla
Posted by smdl
Again, it does not change the fact that because you cannot take off, you decide to send a kid that may be sick to daycare/school.
And let's be honest, there is a difference between teething and a runny nose, cough.
So I want to hear what your answer is.
What should I do if I can't get off and my kid has what I deem to be harmless sniffles?
(And I'm glad you can tell the difference - I sure as helll couldn't the first couple of years.)
I work PT. I work my butt off on weekends to make as much $$$ as possible. That's what I do. DH works during the week. I work on weekends. We never have a day off together.
You see, there are options.
Not everyone has that option
Kate, I went to school to do a career change because I knew how it would be in corporate and having kids. For 3 years, I worked FT and went to school PT. I worked my butt off to have this option. It is still not served to me on a silver platter. We don't have any family on LI. No babysitting, etc... It's just DH and I. I work my butt off on weekends to make $$$$ and make up for not having a FT job. I have to make it all up in 2 days. I did what I had to do.
That is great. And I am sure everyone would applaud you for what yu did for your family. But honestly, as a parent its our job to make it work. Exactly...You did what you had to and so do we. Noone is putting you down, but it does seem that you are putting down others without recognizing their circumstances.
I understand someone cannot take time off. That STILL does not mean they are not sending a sick kid to school.
How is that difficult to understand?
So if your kid has a runny nose and cough and you know it's not teething, and it's not allergies, you know you are sending a sick kid to school because you feel you don't have another option. That kid is still sick regardless you can take time off or not!
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
a cold is different than having a fever, lethargic etc etc.
I'd be concerned with the school he would miss, rather than the amount of days I missed from work.
And I was a single mother when he was in daycare.... I think each person knows their kid best... and to be completely honest, kids NEED to get sick to build up their immunity.
My son RARELY gets sick anymore... Sure he has minor colds throughout the winter, but nothing that lasts more than a day or two... I, haven't been sick in YEARS since he started school full time...
my immunity is strong like bull.
If people are so concerned with their child catching everything under the sun, then might I suggest a personal nanny..keep them out of daycare, and homeschooling them...
or a bubble..
those are some good 'options.' cause, there ARE options, right?
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Palebride
Posted by smdl
Are you saying that now we should have peanuts and those with peanut allergies should not fly?
Yes, clearly that's what I'm saying. Screw the sick people so I can live my life.
Thank you for reading so carefully and trying to see what other people are saying.
You're right. We're wrong. We all just send our kids out into the world to get other kids sick. There's actually a club for it.
Well clearly when someone said that I should put my kid in a germ free environment, they wanted to turn the table and the issue is my son not the sick kids sent to school.
How is that different from me making the peanut allergy analogy. Not allowing PB in school? Should kids with allergies not be allowed in schools either and go in a peanut free environment. Apparently some people and schools and airlines feel differently.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
I personally think there is a difference in this situation for Daycare vs. Preschool and Classes/Activities that you attend with your child. Maybe it's easy for me to say b/c I don't have a child in Daycare but, it was my assumption that babies go to daycare b/c there parents have to work - thus, I think it is safe to assume that there will be times when there are sick kids at daycare b/c there parents have to work (whether there is one parent or two) - not saying this is right but, as a non-daycare parent - I would assume this is par for the course and one of the reasons (although not a major reason) I stay home with DS.
Now when it comes to things like classes and the park etc. where the child is there WITH their mother, nanny, grandmother etc. It makes me very mad to see sick kids - ESPECIALLY now that I am pregnant. Last week at the park every single day I saw at least one sick child at the park - hacking like they had pneumonia or sneezing and coughing all over the place and all over everything and, usually, their caregiver was sick too. One day I even left the park b/c this girl kept hacking in DS's face. To me this isn't fair - yes, I am more sensitive to it with everything with the swine flu and being 24 wks pregnant but, this makes me angry.
As far as school I feel somewhat the same way - if your kid is sick EVEN with just a cold - keep them home if you can - it is not the teacher's job to watch your sick kid and it is not fair to expose them or the other kids (and their pregnant mommies  _ to your kids' illness.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
OK, Im still not seeing the huge deal. Its a cold we are talking about, we are not talking about sending our kids to school with chicken pox or the flu.
You cannot protect them during cold and flu season anyway. There are germs on handle of doors, tables in restaurants, shopping carts in the supermarket, the list goes on and on and on.
I think its unreasonable to keep your kid home for a runny nose. The flu, a fever, a rash and virus....absolutely, but the common cold.
Plus considering the # of times a winter DS has a cold, I couldnt take all that time off from work even if I wanted too. Id lose my job for missing so much work.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Posted by Palebride
Posted by smdl
Are you saying that now we should have peanuts and those with peanut allergies should not fly?
Yes, clearly that's what I'm saying. Screw the sick people so I can live my life.
Thank you for reading so carefully and trying to see what other people are saying.
You're right. We're wrong. We all just send our kids out into the world to get other kids sick. There's actually a club for it.
Well clearly when someone said that I should put my kid in a germ free environment, they wanted to turn the table and the issue is my son not the sick kids sent to school.
How is that different from me making the peanut allergy analogy. Not allowing PB in school? Should kids with allergies not be allowed in schools either and go in a peanut free environment. Apparently some people and schools and airlines feel differently.
This argument is getting out of hand.
I dont' think you mean them to be, but some of your comments are incredibly insensitive.
NO ONE said they would knowingly send a sick child into school. NO ONE.
What people said was that there are different reasons for a runny nose, and some of them are not illnesses, so they would send a child in with a runny nose.
You seem to take that as a personal attack on your son. You want everyone to be sensitive to *your* situation, but you seem to have no sensitivity or care about other's situations.
And, I apparently want to kill all of the kids with a peanut allergy somehow.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
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a cold is different than having a fever, lethargic etc etc.
I'd be concerned with the school he would miss, rather than the amount of days I missed from work.
And I was a single mother when he was in daycare.... I think each person knows their kid best... and to be completely honest, kids NEED to get sick to build up their immunity.
My son RARELY gets sick anymore... Sure he has minor colds throughout the winter, but nothing that lasts more than a day or two... I, haven't been sick in YEARS since he started school full time...
my immunity is strong like bull.
If people are so concerned with their child catching everything under the sun, then might I suggest a personal nanny..keep them out of daycare, and homeschooling them...
or a bubble..
those are some good 'options.' cause, there ARE options, right?
I'm sorry but I disagree. Kids don't NEED to be sick. My DS has a fantastic immune system and he never gets sick - he didn't NEED to get sick to get a good immune system. In fact, all of his little cousins that have ALWAYS been sick are STILL ALWAYS SICK. So, I disagree with you on this one.
I also think it is ridiculous to suggest home schooling to parents that think other parents should take care of their sick kids instead of sending them out to infect others.
There is a difference b/w putting a child in a bubble and avoiding all germs and wanting to avoid already sick people - IMO avoiding sick people is common sense NOT being overly protective.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
How is that different from me making the peanut allergy analogy. Not allowing PB in school? Should kids with allergies not be allowed in schools either and go in a peanut free environment. Apparently some people and schools and airlines feel differently.
Honestly, I have a kid with a severe food allergy and don't see the correlation.
There are no commercial airlines that are completely peanut free. Some have stopped serving bagged peanuts in coach, but they are still served in business class and first class. Passengers on those flights are allowed to bring their own peanut products on board, even in coach.
So, yes, those families with SEVERELY peanut allergic children don't bring them on airplanes or buses or trains. They don't even bring them to restaurants or grocery stores or mass merchandisers like Target because of the possibility of peanut dust being in the air. Many of them home school their kids to avoid the possibility of a severe allergic reaction.
I'm sure that's not the life they envisioned for their child when they were pregnant, but that's how they have to deal with the hand they were dealt.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by itsbabytime
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a cold is different than having a fever, lethargic etc etc.
I'd be concerned with the school he would miss, rather than the amount of days I missed from work.
And I was a single mother when he was in daycare.... I think each person knows their kid best... and to be completely honest, kids NEED to get sick to build up their immunity.
My son RARELY gets sick anymore... Sure he has minor colds throughout the winter, but nothing that lasts more than a day or two... I, haven't been sick in YEARS since he started school full time...
my immunity is strong like bull.
If people are so concerned with their child catching everything under the sun, then might I suggest a personal nanny..keep them out of daycare, and homeschooling them...
or a bubble..
those are some good 'options.' cause, there ARE options, right?
I'm sorry but I disagree. Kids don't NEED to be sick. My DS has a fantastic immune system and he never gets sick - he didn't NEED to get sick to get a good immune system. In fact, all of his little cousins that have ALWAYS been sick are STILL ALWAYS SICK. So, I disagree with you on this one.
I also think it is ridiculous to suggest home schooling to parents that think other parents should take care of their sick kids instead of sending them out to infect others.
There is a difference b/w putting a child in a bubble and avoiding all germs and wanting to avoid already sick people - IMO avoiding sick people is common sense NOT being overly protective.
I think you need to turn on your sarcasm meter.
how old is your DS?
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Does anyone else thinks this threads deserves the award for most ridiculous heated debate on LIF, ever? I have never in my life seen the common cold debated with such ferociousness.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by eddiesmommy
Does anyone else thinks this threads deserves the award for most ridiculous heated debate on LIF, ever? I have never in my life seen the common cold debated with such ferocity.
n00b.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
I have not read this whole thread.
I am a teacher.
I say.. teach the kid to wash his hands and cover his mouth and send him on his way.
Fever or puke or something requiring antibiotics=stay home.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by smdl
Posted by Palebride
Posted by smdl
Are you saying that now we should have peanuts and those with peanut allergies should not fly?
Yes, clearly that's what I'm saying. Screw the sick people so I can live my life.
Thank you for reading so carefully and trying to see what other people are saying.
You're right. We're wrong. We all just send our kids out into the world to get other kids sick. There's actually a club for it.
Well clearly when someone said that I should put my kid in a germ free environment, they wanted to turn the table and the issue is my son not the sick kids sent to school.
How is that different from me making the peanut allergy analogy. Not allowing PB in school? Should kids with allergies not be allowed in schools either and go in a peanut free environment. Apparently some people and schools and airlines feel differently.
In most public schools, PB is allowed and children with allergies sit a seperate table. I do not believe that they stop people from eating nuts on the plane, but they just don't sell them.
I think it is apparent that no matter what anyone says, you just don't care.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by eddiesmommy
Does anyone else thinks this threads deserves the award for most ridiculous heated debate on LIF, ever? I have never in my life seen the common cold debated with such ferocity.
n00b.
should I know what this means?
i have no idea, LOL
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Palebride
And, I apparently want to kill all of the kids with a peanut allergy somehow.
It's with those cakes isn't it!!!
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by Jen2999
I have not read this whole thread.
I am a teacher.
I say.. teach the kid to wash his hands and cover his mouth and send them on their way.
Fever or puke or something requiring antibiotics=stay home.
seriously, the principal at my son's school tells the parents, unless they have a fever or something contagious like pink eye etc etc... DO NOT KEEP YOUR KID HOME.
Aidan has a nice big ol' bottle of hand sanitizer in his bag every day.
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Hi everyone thought it might be a good time to say Hey!
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by twicethefun
I think it is apparent that no matter what anyone says, you just don't care.
And we have a winner!!!
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Palebride
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
Posted by DeadHorse
Posted by Palebride
And, I apparently want to kill all of the kids with a peanut allergy somehow.
It's with those cakes isn't it!!!
OOOH! a clue about who the dead horse is.....must be someone on FB.....
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Re: Spin off the "keeping a kid home"
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Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by HeathKernandez
a cold is different than having a fever, lethargic etc etc.
I'd be concerned with the school he would miss, rather than the amount of days I missed from work.
And I was a single mother when he was in daycare.... I think each person knows their kid best... and to be completely honest, kids NEED to get sick to build up their immunity.
My son RARELY gets sick anymore... Sure he has minor colds throughout the winter, but nothing that lasts more than a day or two... I, haven't been sick in YEARS since he started school full time...
my immunity is strong like bull.
If people are so concerned with their child catching everything under the sun, then might I suggest a personal nanny..keep them out of daycare, and homeschooling them...
or a bubble..
those are some good 'options.' cause, there ARE options, right?
I'm sorry but I disagree. Kids don't NEED to be sick. My DS has a fantastic immune system and he never gets sick - he didn't NEED to get sick to get a good immune system. In fact, all of his little cousins that have ALWAYS been sick are STILL ALWAYS SICK. So, I disagree with you on this one.
I also think it is ridiculous to suggest home schooling to parents that think other parents should take care of their sick kids instead of sending them out to infect others.
There is a difference b/w putting a child in a bubble and avoiding all germs and wanting to avoid already sick people - IMO avoiding sick people is common sense NOT being overly protective.
I think you need to turn on your sarcasm meter.
how old is your DS?
He is 2. The last time he was sick at all - even with a cold was November. And, I am FAR from keeping him in a bubble. Not sure what your sarcasm comment means at all.
meaning... I WAS BEING SARCASTIC.
wait until your kid starts kindergarten... the germs are ALL AROUND.
My son wasn't sick much at 2 either... but once he hit 5, started all day kindergarten... WOAH NELLY...
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