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dm24angel
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by lululu
I'm just curious, for the people that think the spots are unnecessary or find it annoying that they exist - would you be willing to give up your seat on the train/subway for a very pregnant woman? Or would you say "Well, she is able to get to work, she must be okay to stand on the train/subway." I don't know, I just find this world to be a sad place when people can't just extend a courtesy to a pregnant woman without getting annoyed by it. I can't really think of the difference between the two scenarios.... It's just about being charitable to someone who may need a little extra help.
Said it better then I could.
When I'm not PG or without child I wouldn't dream to park there, I would be EMBARRASSED as hell to have anyone see me park there un-needed...
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
I find it sad that because someone got the greatest pregnancy they cannot be compassionate about others who might not as well as they did or they just think if you got PG, you deserve whatever misery is on you.
I was so swollen that I could not wear shoes. Those of who who saw my feet and ankles know how bad it looked. So was I supposed to stay home for 2 months until I delivered my son? I had stuff to be done and I had to drag my butt to the stores after a full day at work.
I am glad someone felt that great while PG or never experience discomfort in their life. It's not the case for every woman. I wish I had been able to not wobble to the store. But that's how it was when I was PG. I was not on bed rest, I did not have pre-eclampsia. I was just a miserable PG woman, super swollen and it was close to 105 heat index the time my son was born. I did not ask for special parking spots, but if they exist, I think it's just like standing up to give you seat to an old lady in the bus/train. It's a courtesy! And I would not even think why she just can't stay home in her condition. I would think "geez, I feel bad for her, she probably forgot to buy something, or she is checking on the furniture that is still not delivered, etc.."
Those spots exist at the Broadway mall. Not just BRU.
I am sure people who have to be on crutches would love to have similar spots too.
What happen to empathy????
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Christine
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by smdl
I am sure people who have to be on crutches would love to have similar spots too.
EXACTLY.
I'll preface this with, I would never park in spots designated for some condition/situation that doesn't pertain to me and I have absolutely given my train seat to people that need it but there are a lot of situations where preferred parking would be super helpful.
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Diana1215
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
I make huge babies - which in turn means I am huge preggo. I loved being able to park in those spots - because yes, even though I was out and about shopping I wasn't very comfortable. Things needed to be bought and unfortunately I didn't have a personal shopper to do it for me.
For my second pregnancy I was also toting around a very heavy two year old so I would get so fired up when I would see a non-preggo (or even worse, a man) parking in them.
It's just a common courtesy people.
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Jenn627
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by seaside
It reveals so much about them. 
Exactly - and for some people to actually be so cavalier about it.... It's just sad.
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Lisa
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by lululu
I'm just curious, for the people that think the spots are unnecessary or find it annoying that they exist - would you be willing to give up your seat on the train/subway for a very pregnant woman? Or would you say "Well, she is able to get to work, she must be okay to stand on the train/subway." I don't know, I just find this world to be a sad place when people can't just extend a courtesy to a pregnant woman without getting annoyed by it. I can't really think of the difference between the two scenarios.... It's just about being charitable to someone who may need a little extra help.
I give up my seat ALL them time for someone that is preggo or handicap. While I dont understand the need for the spots at BRU....arent the majority of people that go in there preggo or have children, therefore maybe the whole lot should be restricted parking.... I would never park in one of those spots just as I would never park in a handicap spot.
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
The judgements, as usual, on this thread are not only ridiculous, but also so contrary to other beliefs that people have written about in the past.
So it's a huge offense and one should be ashamed of themselves nad have people feel sad for them for parking in stork parking of all places when they have a lot of packages to cart around, but it's ok to go 80 MPH on the LIE?
Warped.
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Christine
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Snickers
The judgements, as usual, on this thread are not only ridiculous, but also so contrary to other beliefs that people have written about in the past.
This board is full of that.
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| Posted 1/9/10 7:45 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Snickers
The judgements, as usual, on this thread are not only ridiculous, but also so contrary to other beliefs that people have written about in the past.
So it's a huge offense and one should be ashamed of themselves nad have people feel sad for them for parking in stork parking of all places when they have a lot of packages to cart around, but it's ok to go 80 MPH on the LIE?
Warped.
I don't think it's ok to go 80MPH on the LIE
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lululu
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Lisa
Posted by lululu
I'm just curious, for the people that think the spots are unnecessary or find it annoying that they exist - would you be willing to give up your seat on the train/subway for a very pregnant woman? Or would you say "Well, she is able to get to work, she must be okay to stand on the train/subway." I don't know, I just find this world to be a sad place when people can't just extend a courtesy to a pregnant woman without getting annoyed by it. I can't really think of the difference between the two scenarios.... It's just about being charitable to someone who may need a little extra help.
I give up my seat ALL them time for someone that is preggo or handicap. While I dont understand the need for the spots at BRU....arent the majority of people that go in there preggo or have children, therefore maybe the whole lot should be restricted parking.... I would never park in one of those spots just as I would never park in a handicap spot.
There are a ton of grandparents and just people getting gifts in the stores. also, I still go there all the time and my son is almost 2. There really are a lot of people that don't need the spots that go there. In fact I almost always see a bunch of the spots empty....
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rileysmama
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Snickers
When i know I have a lot of stuff to schlep to BRU to return or that I am going to buy a big item, i always park in stork parking. Sorry, but if you are so pregnant and you can you can still DRIVE to a BRU, you can walk from your car into the store. I spend most of my life schlepping--I live in a 3rd floor walk-up with a one year old, so if that spot is open, I'm taking it.
I have never seen spots for parents with kids.
Edited: wording
So, to make it easier for YOU, you park in a spot designated for pregnant women? That's really rude.....
Posted by Snickers
I'm sorry, but I don't think so. I was pregnant, went through a difficult pregnancy and have no help from anyone but DH who works a lot. I have to do a lot of schlepping all by myself. To the poster who said that she could barely walk when she was 9 months pregnant in August, why would you even consider driving to a BRU? What could you possibly need at that point? I can't possibly imagine being in so much pain and discomfort and saying to myself, "You know, I should really go to BRU right now. I just have to get _________ at this very moment 9 months pregnant and barely able to walk." I always thought "Stork Parking" was cute, but unnecessary. The BRU I go to doesn't allow customers to take carts to their cars so when I have to buy a large item for my child, I absolutely park in the closest available spot.
Ok, I'm not starting to start drama here for three reasons:
-i'm still new
-i respect the LIF "elders"
-and it's not in my nature to start drama :)
But, I DO love all these boards and always find people's opinions interesting - as we all have different ones, and sometimes you gain insight on another perspective that you wouldn't have thought of yourself. So i'm curious as to posing a situation for maybe everyone being more open minded here. :)
Snickers - I understand completely about schlepping around with a 1 year old, it is very difficult, especially with a walk up, and definately even more difficult with lots of items, bags, you name it. You mention that if you are going to buy a big item, you definately go for Stork Parking.
Which, in reality, makes sense, as it's hard to carry a big item and it's nice to have your car nearby the exit)
And you say your DH was working a lot and unvailable (which adds even more to the hassle).
I understand all of that, but let's say you were in the shoes of a single mom, 9 months pregnant, had no help whatsoever, and you literally *did* have to run out to get an item last minute (for whatever reason, or let's say you got a great coupon that was going to save you TONS on a carseat and you waited to buy one, because you had little money and today was the last day to use the coupon, as it was going to expire, and not to mention, shipping would take too long for it to come by the time you need it)
and then let's say you are schleppin' your prego self to the store, and you are excited to see a spot for you at Stork Parking, but let's say you (Snickers) pulls in, and the prego woman realizes you aren't pregnant/have kids/whatever the case is.
Would you feel a bit bad?
Could you see where maybe someone else has it worse?
I mean, everyone always has it worse than the next person, obviously, but would you feel that the spot would have benefited her a bit more in that situation?
Totally not flaming, or saying anyone else's view is right or wrong, or anything like that.
Just posing a situation that might make you think differently (because I know my mind changes a lot after hearing different views )
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Janice
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
hemmroids, sciatica, morning sickness...probably all with lugging around a toddler already.
If the store was able to show compassion for this pregnant soul for just a few minutes of her life, so what?
It makes her feel like a VIP. I am sure she could live without the spot, but why not treat someone with something special?
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Candy Girl
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by Snickers
The judgements, as usual, on this thread are not only ridiculous, but also so contrary to other beliefs that people have written about in the past.
So it's a huge offense and one should be ashamed of themselves nad have people feel sad for them for parking in stork parking of all places when they have a lot of packages to cart around, but it's ok to go 80 MPH on the LIE?
Warped.
I don't think it's ok to go 80MPH on the LIE
There was a thread w while back about how fast one should drive on the LIE and most of the answers were somewhere in the range of 70-80 MPH. Meanwhile, I should be crucified for parking in stork parking twice in a year.
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Candy Girl
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by rileysmama
Posted by Snickers
When i know I have a lot of stuff to schlep to BRU to return or that I am going to buy a big item, i always park in stork parking. Sorry, but if you are so pregnant and you can you can still DRIVE to a BRU, you can walk from your car into the store. I spend most of my life schlepping--I live in a 3rd floor walk-up with a one year old, so if that spot is open, I'm taking it.
I have never seen spots for parents with kids.
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So, to make it easier for YOU, you park in a spot designated for pregnant women? That's really rude.....
Posted by Snickers
I'm sorry, but I don't think so. I was pregnant, went through a difficult pregnancy and have no help from anyone but DH who works a lot. I have to do a lot of schlepping all by myself. To the poster who said that she could barely walk when she was 9 months pregnant in August, why would you even consider driving to a BRU? What could you possibly need at that point? I can't possibly imagine being in so much pain and discomfort and saying to myself, "You know, I should really go to BRU right now. I just have to get _________ at this very moment 9 months pregnant and barely able to walk." I always thought "Stork Parking" was cute, but unnecessary. The BRU I go to doesn't allow customers to take carts to their cars so when I have to buy a large item for my child, I absolutely park in the closest available spot.
Ok, I'm not starting to start drama here for three reasons:
-i'm still new
-i respect the LIF "elders"
-and it's not in my nature to start drama :)
But, I DO love all these boards and always find people's opinions interesting - as we all have different ones, and sometimes you gain insight on another perspective that you wouldn't have thought of yourself. So i'm curious as to posing a situation for maybe everyone being more open minded here. :)
Snickers - I understand completely about schlepping around with a 1 year old, it is very difficult, especially with a walk up, and definately even more difficult with lots of items, bags, you name it. You mention that if you are going to buy a big item, you definately go for Stork Parking.
Which, in reality, makes sense, as it's hard to carry a big item and it's nice to have your car nearby the exit)
And you say your DH was working a lot and unvailable (which adds even more to the hassle).
I understand all of that, but let's say you were in the shoes of a single mom, 9 months pregnant, had no help whatsoever, and you literally *did* have to run out to get an item last minute (for whatever reason, or let's say you got a great coupon that was going to save you TONS on a carseat and you waited to buy one, because you had little money and today was the last day to use the coupon, as it was going to expire, and not to mention, shipping would take too long for it to come by the time you need it)
and then let's say you are schleppin' your prego self to the store, and you are excited to see a spot for you at Stork Parking, but let's say you (Snickers) pulls in, and the prego woman realizes you aren't pregnant/have kids/whatever the case is.
Would you feel a bit bad?
Could you see where maybe someone else has it worse?
I mean, everyone always has it worse than the next person, obviously, but would you feel that the spot would have benefited her a bit more in that situation?
Totally not flaming, or saying anyone else's view is right or wrong, or anything like that.
Just posing a situation that might make you think differently (because I know my mind changes a lot after hearing different views)
I understand your point completely, but my pointis that if you are going to put your life or the life if your unborn child t risk by going to a BRU 9 months pregnant to b=buy a CARSEAT of all things, you must be crazy. Absolutely nutso.HAve you ever seen the size the boxes of car seats come in? To me, it's not worth 80% off to have to schlep to a BRU by myself in a car, walk around the strore, pick the car seat up, put it in a cart, stand in line, pay for it, schlep it out to my car and try to make room for it somewhere? No way, no how.
A lot of you are acting as if nine month pregnant women are going to BRU and buying their cribs and gliders and taking them out to their cars alone. Possible-yes. Probable-nope.
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ave1024
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
No.
But the last time I actually saw one of those signs, it was when I was returning to my car. I was parked in an "expecting mother's" spot. 
Totally didn't see it when I parked.
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Porrruss
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Snickers
The judgements, as usual, on this thread are not only ridiculous, but also so contrary to other beliefs that people have written about in the past.
So it's a huge offense and one should be ashamed of themselves nad have people feel sad for them for parking in stork parking of all places when they have a lot of packages to cart around, but it's ok to go 80 MPH on the LIE?
Warped.
I don't see why you feel the need to get so defensive. The truth of the matter is that you stated you do what is best for YOU and your life, regardless of the "rules". So with that, move on. It's your life and you apparently do what you want in this situation. You can't possibly be surprised that people passing judgement comes with being discourteous to others.
For the record, I was one of those 9 months pregnant women lugging a 1.5 year old to the supermarket/BRU. What was I supposed to do when my husband was putting in 16 hour days so he could take time off when the baby got here? Perhaps you were blessed to have help, but I live OOS and was the only one that could food shop.
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seaside
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
No amount of wrongs make a right. Speeding, drunk driving, and parking in restricted spots are all symbolic of a "me first" attitude of entitlement and selfishness, as well as disregard for others and for the law.
Where does that get us? It doesn't advance the conversation any.
Some people live their lives that way; others are law abiding, decent, and responsible.
The interesting thing is that almost everyone thinks she is a good person--and will verbalize that...but decency should be judged by ones actions day to day and not by how one chooses to see or describe or think of oneself.
In the wake of all the me-first people are those members of society who have been victimized by them.
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Candy Girl
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by Snickers
The judgements, as usual, on this thread are not only ridiculous, but also so contrary to other beliefs that people have written about in the past.
So it's a huge offense and one should be ashamed of themselves nad have people feel sad for them for parking in stork parking of all places when they have a lot of packages to cart around, but it's ok to go 80 MPH on the LIE?
Warped.
I don't see why you feel the need to get so defensive. The truth of the matter is that you stated you do what is best for YOU and your life, regardless of the "rules". So with that, move on. It's your life and you apparently do what you want in this situation. You can't possibly be surprised that people passing judgement comes with being discourteous to others.
For the record, I was one of those 9 months pregnant women lugging a 1.5 year old to the supermarket/BRU. What was I supposed to do when my husband was putting in 16 hour days so he could take time off when the baby got here? Perhaps you were blessed to have help, but I live OOS and was the only one that could food shop.
I'm not feeling the need to "get so defensive," I just merely pointed out that the morals and values, IMO, of the posters on this board are backwards. I don't feel badly about parking in stork parking, as I have said over and over again, when I have many, many packages to carry into and/or out of the store. I don't think it's discourteous. I also think those that are trying to justify my discourtesy by stating that I am taking a spot away from an imaginary nine month pregnant woman who HAS to get a carseat from BRU with a crazy deal coupon are r-e-a-l-l-y s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g to make me seem like some villain.
And as I stated before, (I guess no one reads entire posts )I have no help. My in-laws are dead, as is my father. My Mom is in a wheelchair (and she doesn't/can't drive so don't start in about-how would you feel if someone took a spot away from your mother blah blah blah...) and my husband is an attorney who works very long hours. I have always had to do things on my own and over the years i have done what I had to do to get my ish done in the best and most comfortable way for ME.
If I had a package of wipes to return to BRU or a Barbie Doll, I wouldn't use Stork Parking, but in the situation I was in last week, I had and still have no qualms about it.
Thanks.
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
I can't believe this is even up for debate. It's common decency. It's not like there are a thousand of these spots....so that you'd have to walk 100 extra feet to get to the store.
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by lululu
I'm just curious, for the people that think the spots are unnecessary or find it annoying that they exist - would you be willing to give up your seat on the train/subway for a very pregnant woman? Or would you say "Well, she is able to get to work, she must be okay to stand on the train/subway." I don't know, I just find this world to be a sad place when people can't just extend a courtesy to a pregnant woman without getting annoyed by it. I can't really think of the difference between the two scenarios.... It's just about being charitable to someone who may need a little extra help.
ITA
There are a lot of "entitlement issues" in our world. I think its sad that people cannot offer up common courtesy.
I have 3 young children. I DO use the "parent with child" parking because getting my children out of the parking lot as quickly and safely as possible is my goal. People do not pay any attention, and SPEED through parking lots, across the painted spots, go whichever way they darn well please, and I am not going to risk my childrens live to go to a store. When I was PG, I used the special spaces for the same reason. When you are PG, you are usually slower moving, your center of gravity is shifted, and you can be clumsy at times. I was not risking some jerk flying through the parking lot hitting me, or someone backing out of a spot and NOT looking behind the car first.
People are generally inconsiderate a$$e$.
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Porrruss
I don't see why you feel the need to get so defensive. The truth of the matter is that you stated you do what is best for YOU and your life, regardless of the "rules". So with that, move on. It's your life and you apparently do what you want in this situation. You can't possibly be surprised that people passing judgement comes with being discourteous to others.
Forgive me for my ignorance on the subject, but "Stork" parking is a RULE? I never saw it when I lived on L.I.(granted I've been gone for 2 years). I've never seen it down here in S.C. If it's a "RULE", why isn't it at every store? I thought it was a courtesy, sort of like holding the door, giving up a seat, or cleaning up the booth at a restaurant after your kid trashed it. Courtesies of society but not rules or laws (i.e. handicapped parking). Could someone please explain? You actually get a ticket? Car gets towed? What?
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
just want to add that there are those spots n other shopping centers that dont pertain to only kids store. They exist in fresh meadows where hooters its
Regardless of whether I would a gree with the courtesy or not, I still would respect the rules and park someone else. My sister had a rough pregnancy and on her good days wouldnt park there to give someone else who maybe be having a more difficult day that spot. Its common courtesy and tht never killed anyone.
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by SuchIsLife
Forgive me for my ignorance on the subject, but "Stork" parking is a RULE? I never saw it when I lived on L.I.(granted I've been gone for 2 years). I've never seen it down here in S.C. If it's a "RULE", why isn't it at every store? I thought it was a courtesy, sort of like holding the door, giving up a seat, or cleaning up the booth at a restaurant after your kid trashed it. Courtesies of society but not rules or laws (i.e. handicapped parking). Could someone please explain? You actually get a ticket? Car gets towed? What?
It's just a courtesy spot. Places like Buy Buy Baby and Babies R Us have them for pregnant women and women with newborns and supermarkets have them for customers with children. There are no tickets, it's just a courtesy.
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
And yet, it's the store's rule, like how many items you an bring into a dressingroom or how much something costs. My thinking is that if don't like a rule, I won't shop at a store, but I WON"T steal something, sneak items into a dressingroom, and park on their property where they tell me I shouldn't be.
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rileysmama
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Re: Spinoff to the non parent thread...
Posted by Snickers
I'm not feeling the need to "get so defensive," I just merely pointed out that the morals and values, IMO, of the posters on this board are backwards. I don't feel badly about parking in stork parking, as I have said over and over again, when I have many, many packages to carry into and/or out of the store. I don't think it's discourteous. I also think those that are trying to justify my discourtesy by stating that I am taking a spot away from an imaginary nine month pregnant woman who HAS to get a carseat from BRU with a crazy deal coupon are r-e-a-l-l-y s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g to make me seem like some villain.
In no way did I try to paint you as a villain. To me, *that* is really stretching. I was nice and agreed with your opinion, but was just posing a situation where maybe you could see the other viewpoint, as most would understand your part of the view of the hassle of schlepping around constantly.
IMO, villains need to have karma come around, which would mean:
one day you will be without your DC, with tons of packages to carry into the store. You will feel self-entitled to priority parking, and go to use the parking spot you aren't supposed to use, but will attempt to anyway.
And instead of you making to the spot first, a car will pull in that will contain a person with no packages, bags, or boxes. And you will likely feel a brief moment of annoyance. You will think to yourself, "But *I* should have got that spot; I have all these packages and that lady has none!! I deserve it more than her!"
And i'm sure *that* is what every pregnant woman or lady with a child feels when you take a spot that is deserved to her.
Message edited 1/10/2010 8:46:02 PM.
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