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JME78
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Why can't we just be respectful of other people's personal preferences and answer a question without the drama...
Because I think a lot of times people's personal preferences are to the detriment of society as a whole.
If I choose to breastfeed my child in public, what on earth does that have to do with anyone else? Its sad that a natural act is stigmatized in such a way that people have to go hide in a bathroom and do it.
Its like the pp said about being uncomfortable with homosexuality.
Its a similar narrow minded, outdated view and it makes me sad that feeding your child the way they are supposed to be fed is looked upon as anything other than normal and perfectly acceptable.
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Posted by gdubs
and answer a question without the drama...
what fun would that be
she was getting lots of support (even from me and im a tata feeder) but you know how it is on here
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| Posted 12/20/12 3:38 PM |
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Seriously! It was going really well for a page or so!
I am going to give the boob a shot and take zero offense to people not wanting to watch me do it!
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| Posted 12/20/12 3:43 PM |
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Ok I'm sorry but I will never get WHY would anyone make anyone feel guilty over not BF or why anyone would feel guilty  It's no one's business really.
I EBF my DD for almost a year and EBF my son now, but I'm doing it because I want to and enjoy the bonding I get with them. But that's not to say that there is anything wrong with FF, I don't have a problem with it, my mom never BF , neither did my sister or any of my friends , so what?! Nothing wrong with FF!
And you know what , even though I BF I don't like it either when women BF in public without covering up, so I don't blame anyone for feeling this way. No one needs to see my boobs while I feed my kid...
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Posted by Oldusernewname
Ok I'm sorry but I will never get WHY would anyone make anyone feel guilty over not BF or why anyone would feel guilty It's no one's business really.
I EBF my DD for almost a year and EBF my son now, but I'm doing it because I want to and enjoy the bonding I get with them. But that's not to say that there is anything wrong with FF, I don't have a problem with it, my mom never BF , neither did my sister or any of my friends , so what?! Nothing wrong with FF!
And you know what , even though I BF I don't like it either when women BF in public without covering up, so I don't blame anyone for feeling this way. No one needs to see my boobs while I feed my kid...
This is basically what I had said originally. I said that even though I plan to try breastfeeding, I don't like watching other people do it. I also said that I would never actually say anthing because then someone would say there is something wrong with me. Then, someone said my stance was sad. So basically I said something and was made to feel like something was wrong with me. I'm a victim of society. LOL. The way this convo has gone actually makes me laugh.
I know so many women who are amazing moms and never breastfed, so it's just strange to me that women base how good of a parent they are by how long they BF for or if they tried.
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| Posted 12/20/12 4:19 PM |
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Posted by Oldusernewname
Ok I'm sorry but I will never get WHY would anyone make anyone feel guilty over not BF or why anyone would feel guilty It's no one's business really.
I EBF my DD for almost a year and EBF my son now, but I'm doing it because I want to and enjoy the bonding I get with them. But that's not to say that there is anything wrong with FF, I don't have a problem with it, my mom never BF , neither did my sister or any of my friends , so what?! Nothing wrong with FF!
And you know what , even though I BF I don't like it either when women BF in public without covering up, so I don't blame anyone for feeling this way. No one needs to see my boobs while I feed my kid...
This is basically what I had said originally. I said that even though I plan to try breastfeeding, I don't like watching other people do it. I also said that I would never actually say anthing because then someone would say there is something wrong with me. Then, someone said my stance was sad. So basically I said something and was made to feel like something was wrong with me. I'm a victim of society. LOL. The way this convo has gone actually makes me laugh.
I know so many women who are amazing moms and never breastfed, so it's just strange to me that women base how good of a parent they are by how long they BF for or if they tried.
Honestly I think some women are insecure in how they parent , how they choose to feed/take care of their kids and they take it out on other women, make them feel bad about choices they make , then some women are insecure because they are first time moms and feel guilty when someone says something like "oh you are NOT breastfeeding?"
I told someone I'm BF and told me she isn't BF because she doesn't want to "ruin her boobs " or be up all night because not getting enough sleep causes her to have "dark circles around her eyes"... People are silly , what are you going to do.
OP I don't have to tell you that there is always something, if you are a SAHM you don't do anything all day, if you are a FTM you are not a good mother because a mother should be home with her kids. You can never win no matter what you choose to do . So you just have to do the best you can, be the best mother you can be and grow a thick skin when it comes to silly comments, , not take them personally.
All your child needs is love and care, it diesn't matter if you FF or BF as long as you feed him/ her
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JME78
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
I'm not trying to judge anyone's choice to BF or not - that is a personal decision that every family needs to decide for themselves.
I just have a strong reaction to people judging those who BF in public - it makes me sad that it is not widely accepted, I think people should be allowed to feed their children wherever and whenever they want.
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| Posted 12/20/12 9:40 PM |
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Posted by gdubs
Seriously! It was going really well for a page or so!
I am going to give the boob a shot and take zero offense to people not wanting to watch me do it!
I love you 2 ladies 
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Posted by violet25
I can't help it. It's a baby eating! Formula is fine, and BF is not the right choice for everyone, but our society's attitude toward BF is just very depressing.
Isn't it 'funny' how BF moms think that formula feeding moms have a bad attitude towards BF-and formula feeding moms think that BF moms have a bad attitude towards formula feeding?
Bottom line, there are two ways to feed your child-one no better than the other. Stop judging other people, mind your own business, support other moms, and make sure your child is happy and fed. The end.
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
I got a lot of heat over my decision not to BF and felt very guilty about it...then I read this article that made me feel a bit better
http://www.babble.com/baby/baby-feeding-nutrition/benefits-of-breastfeeding-baby-formula-feeding/
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Posted by brownie
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ummmmmmmm
did i miss something. bully
one broad out of 9834823048 made a comment about bm being better. that's it. not that she's a pos for not bf.
the op got exactly what she needed and wanted. TONS OF SUPPORT!!!
I just felt the comment made wasn't very supportive or accurate and I pointed it out. I don't think it was bullying.
NOT looking to start drama here, but I'm sure it will be viewed as drama...but her statement was 100% accurate. BM IS what is best for baby's health. Even the formula companies admit this - hence why they print it on their packaging. It may not be what is best for many people (and that is why formula is a GREAT alternative) but it is a fact and not an opinion that BM is best for babies.
Thank you
If someone has a medical condition contraindicating breast feeding, how is breast feeding best? If a mom needs a medication expressed in breastmilk that can be harmful to the baby then breastmilk is not the best option. For example, antidepressive medications used to treat PPD are expressed in breastmilk and effect neurological development in babies. That doesn't sound like such a great option anymore does it?
I struggled trying to BF for a few weeks and ended up pumping until I lost my supply. And I developed PPD really bad. I should have stopped and went on medication but I kept trying making the depression worse because everyone was always saying breast is best and i felt like crap. I didn't want to inhibit any neurological development in my DD so I didn't take the medication I needed. Yeah breastmilk may have great nutrition benefits but it's not always the best option.
I'm not sorry because this is very personal to me. Why can't there be as much focus on PPD as there is on BF? Breastmilk is great for the baby and mom's want to do what's best for the baby at the expense of themselves.
So when someone is looking for support for a decision to formula feed... guess what... yes it's perfectly ok to formula feed. She sounded like she made an informed decision to formula feed. But obviously people need to judge.
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Posted by maybaby24
I got a lot of heat over my decision not to BF and felt very guilty about it...then I read this article that made me feel a bit better
http://www.babble.com/baby/baby-feeding-nutrition/benefits-of-breastfeeding-baby-formula-feeding/
Good article...thank you for that
To answer the original question, I plan to go straight to formula feeding. I'm very happy and content with my decision. We will be using organic formula though.
From all the babies around me, who have been breastfeed and formula fed, I don't see a difference in their health. The breastfed ones get sick, develop food allergies, and even asthma just as much as the formula fed ones. This is just personally what I have seen, can't speak for everyone else, but this is why I'm confident in my decision
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Those NOT Breastfeeding
totally your choice - but the first stuff that comes in is like the best stuff for them.... you could always get a breast pump while in the hospital - and not continue it when you go home.
with #1 I only pumped for 2-3 weeks, he didnt latch.
with #2 I pumped almost 2 months - totally didn't expect it that long -
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
To answer the OP not once in my life did I ever even consider BFing
It wasn't even an option in my mind at any point ever
And now that I see how well my DD did on formula and how she thrived and how healthy she is and RARELY ever sick I would never ever consider it for future babies either.
She did so well on formula I can't imagine one benefit she would have gotten from it.
Seeing how she thrived really validated my choice 1000%
And never once in my life did I have ONE ounce of guilt over it.
There is nothing to be guilty about..
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Crashing here TTC again soon.
With my first while pregnant I was 100% for breastfeeding, took a class etc. but baby came 5 weeks early and very small in NICU and he was "burning too many calories" trying to breastfeed. I was pumping but it was not working out too well because I was so stressed. I finally put the pump away probably around 2 months and felt so FREE and HAPPY and the guilt was gone. My baby almost 1, happy, healthy and strong all from Gerber Gentle Formula. Now with my next, I guess I will try, but I am really not interested in doing it anymore, I am turned off by it now. and I think formula is soo easy for a mom who works 50 hours a week. I will try to provide the colostrum but that's about it unless I feel differently in the moment.
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
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ummmmmmmm
did i miss something. bully
one broad out of 9834823048 made a comment about bm being better. that's it. not that she's a pos for not bf.
the op got exactly what she needed and wanted. TONS OF SUPPORT!!!
I just felt the comment made wasn't very supportive or accurate and I pointed it out. I don't think it was bullying.
NOT looking to start drama here, but I'm sure it will be viewed as drama...but her statement was 100% accurate. BM IS what is best for baby's health. Even the formula companies admit this - hence why they print it on their packaging. It may not be what is best for many people (and that is why formula is a GREAT alternative) but it is a fact and not an opinion that BM is best for babies.
Thank you
If someone has a medical condition contraindicating breast feeding, how is breast feeding best? If a mom needs a medication expressed in breastmilk that can be harmful to the baby then breastmilk is not the best option. For example, antidepressive medications used to treat PPD are expressed in breastmilk and effect neurological development in babies. That doesn't sound like such a great option anymore does it?
I struggled trying to BF for a few weeks and ended up pumping until I lost my supply. And I developed PPD really bad. I should have stopped and went on medication but I kept trying making the depression worse because everyone was always saying breast is best and i felt like crap. I didn't want to inhibit any neurological development in my DD so I didn't take the medication I needed. Yeah breastmilk may have great nutrition benefits but it's not always the best option.
I'm not sorry because this is very personal to me. Why can't there be as much focus on PPD as there is on BF? Breastmilk is great for the baby and mom's want to do what's best for the baby at the expense of themselves.
So when someone is looking for support for a decision to formula feed... guess what... yes it's perfectly ok to formula feed. She sounded like she made an informed decision to formula feed. But obviously people need to judge.
Thank you ......the title of this thread specifically reads "those NOT bf" so I don't really get why this thread turned into the "breast is best" and "bf is stigmatized" thread yes she asked about the insert on formula cans about "breast is best" that FYI is something they have to do from the FDA but to tell a person who titled her thread "those NOT bf" and one that basically made her decision from what I gather, breast IS best, is not supportive and I'm sorry it comes off judge mental if this was a thread asking about the advantages and disadvantages of both bc the op was trying to make a decision then I would understand but what I got from the reason of her post was to get support for her decision not for breast is best to shoved down her throat
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Crashing! I didn't bf. I never even considered it. I just knew it wasn't for me. My dd who is now 2 was formula fed and is healthy and happy. I have zero regrets.
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Posted by Melmel821
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ummmmmmmm
did i miss something. bully
one broad out of 9834823048 made a comment about bm being better. that's it. not that she's a pos for not bf.
the op got exactly what she needed and wanted. TONS OF SUPPORT!!!
I just felt the comment made wasn't very supportive or accurate and I pointed it out. I don't think it was bullying.
NOT looking to start drama here, but I'm sure it will be viewed as drama...but her statement was 100% accurate. BM IS what is best for baby's health. Even the formula companies admit this - hence why they print it on their packaging. It may not be what is best for many people (and that is why formula is a GREAT alternative) but it is a fact and not an opinion that BM is best for babies.
Thank you
If someone has a medical condition contraindicating breast feeding, how is breast feeding best? If a mom needs a medication expressed in breastmilk that can be harmful to the baby then breastmilk is not the best option. For example, antidepressive medications used to treat PPD are expressed in breastmilk and effect neurological development in babies. That doesn't sound like such a great option anymore does it?
I struggled trying to BF for a few weeks and ended up pumping until I lost my supply. And I developed PPD really bad. I should have stopped and went on medication but I kept trying making the depression worse because everyone was always saying breast is best and i felt like crap. I didn't want to inhibit any neurological development in my DD so I didn't take the medication I needed. Yeah breastmilk may have great nutrition benefits but it's not always the best option.
I'm not sorry because this is very personal to me. Why can't there be as much focus on PPD as there is on BF? Breastmilk is great for the baby and mom's want to do what's best for the baby at the expense of themselves.
So when someone is looking for support for a decision to formula feed... guess what... yes it's perfectly ok to formula feed. She sounded like she made an informed decision to formula feed. But obviously people need to judge.
And if you read everything I actually wrote you'd see I said yes it's not always best *when* there are specific medical considerations taken into account. Otherwise YES it is best. The ONLY reason this thread had anything about BFing in it is because the OP ASKED WHY THE CAN HAD THAT WRITTEN ON THERE. So yes, I don't care how you feed your baby...I BF, pumped and used formula. You do whatever you have to do...but IMPO I'm going to do whatever I can next time to make BFing work because of the overwhelming benefits with it. And again, BM is best...IS NOT my opinion but true (with few exceptions of course). Also as a side note, lots of my friends suffered PPD...some were able to succeed with certain ssri's and some were not. ALL are good moms 
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Melmel821
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
nevermind... it's not worth it
To the original poster... there are perfectly good reasons to FF. There are great benefits to BM but you need to weigh the benefits for your family for either way. I'm not anti BF - I tried! but I think everyone deserves to make an informed decision based on facts not guilt.
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Do whatever YOU feel is the best choice for you & your baby. Nobody can make that decision but you. If FF is what u feel in your gut then go for it; nobody has the right to make u feel guilty one way or another. & NOBODY should be obnoxious enough to judge other people for their decision just because it's not their choice/not what they are used to. People should be supportive of other moms feeding decisions & respect that everyone has different circumstances/reasoning behind the method they choose. That being said.......
Posted by babyvontheway
I have no desr to breast feed.... In fact it actually creeps me out to see others breastfeed. It's just something I am very uncomfortable with. I don't think I will have any regrets
I get so stressed if have ever have to BF in public (which is few & far between). I usually feed DD in my car or in a dressing room if I'm in a store. I do everything in my power to keep it private but Sometimes that's just not possible though & I have to take out the good 'ol nursing cover Sorry to "creep you out" but if u don't like it look away. I'm not letting my DD be hungry for the sake of strangers who might get creeped out. If u dont like a situation, remove yourself from it. Look away. Walk away. Just like that old adage, "if you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all."
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
not even going to try gonna go straight to formula
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Don't feel guilty at all.
With all of mine I FF, I did try to BF with my 1st. I gave her a bottle in the hospital because she was extremly hungry, small and needed to gain weight and I didn't have much to offer her. I was told by the lactation consultant that she was spitting up because I gave her formula. Within 2 weeks of coming home and not being able to produce enough milk my DD was strictly FF and I never looked back since.
All of my other children were FF. It was the best decision i ever made.
I don't see the big deal with formula. My babies all slept through the night early, gained a normal amount of weight, got the essential vitamins and nutrients and grew up to be very smart children.
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
Just do what you feel is right and good luck.
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Re: Those NOT Breastfeeding
BTDT crashing here -
You have to make the choice that is best for you and STICK TO IT - and don't explain yourself or apologize for it either b/c that makes it seem like you're doing something wrong - and you're NOT.
I didn't BF either of my boys. I had NO desire at all, whatsoever to nurse. I was willing to try to pump (and did for 3 weeks each and got the equivaelent of a 4 oz bottle per DAY) It wasn't for me -
Nursing made me extremely uncomfortable, I called the pump the torture device .....it just was not my thing - at ALL.
I have no guilt - my kids are happy and healthy and smart and I enjoyed that time sitting in the rocker with them giving them their bottles ......I didn't miss out on any bonding w/ my kids just b/c they weren't drinking from my body -
and that whole thing about giving your baby what's 'best' .......
What's BEST for your baby is the love and nurturing and time and energy you will give him (her)
In an ideal situation, is your own breastmilk supreior nutritionally to formula? - Studies say yes ....I can't say, I'm not a doctor, or a chemist -
but a stressed out, crying, miserable, guilt riddeen, uncomfortable, oh so desperately TRYING to breastfeed mother is NOT what's 'best' for a baby.
that would have been me - which is part of the resason why I didn't bother.
That WAS many MANY of my friends and family - (and many didn't have a hard time at all and were naturals at it)
but honestly, I'm SURE i'll get flamed for this but it's true (at least in my circle) a lot (not ALL, but a lot) of those women breastfed just to SAY they did it, as a personal acomplishment - NOT b/c they enjoyed it, or 'bonded' any differently with their baby - but now it's a badge of honor "OH I BF'd for X amount of time, I struggled through the first 3 weeks when I was SO miserable and didn't sleep AT ALL and blah blah blah ......." Great, congratulations.
Bottom line, BFing doesn't make you a better mother, so do what makes you comfortable, b/c ultimately THAT is what will make your baby, yourself, your husband and everyone else around you happy and able to enjoy each other.
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but honestly, I'm SURE i'll get flamed for this but it's true (at least in my circle) a lot (not ALL, but a lot) of those women breastfed just to SAY they did it, as a personal acomplishment - NOT b/c they enjoyed it, or 'bonded' any differently with their baby - but now it's a badge of honor "OH I BF'd for X amount of time, I struggled through the first 3 weeks when I was SO miserable and didn't sleep AT ALL and blah blah blah ......." Great, congratulations.
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Really ? I'm sorry but this is the silliest thing I ever heard, sounds like something a bitter person would say. sorry.
I truly I can't imagine any mother breastfeeding just so they can say they did it, to brag about it.
Maybe I'm wrong...
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