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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
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Posted by Ophelia
maybe I am not too learned...but I didn't know anyone believe God put pen to paper to write the bible.
what religion is that?
exactly! thats the first time i ever heard of it! thats why the Bible readings have names and numbers!
Exactly, each gospel is someone's Passion. What they've seen and how they've interpreted it.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JenniferEver
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having just recently read Genesis half way through Leviticus- I am not sure I get what you are referring to- as conflicting? Are you saying Adam & Eve and then Noah conflict each other?
They are two different points in time though- how are they conflicting?
Genesis 1:God created Male and Female.
Genesis 2: Creation story repeated. This time God puts Adam into a deep sleep and takes out his rib to create Eve.
The Noah story is separate. there are two intertwined stories that say things differently, but it;s much more complicated to explain.
ETA: I am a firm believer in the documentary hypothesis and these are two of the main examples of it in action in common bible stories.
Quite simply, they were stories interpreted differenty by different writers, which is logical. But if you don't go the DH route, or if you are one of the people who believe that human interp and error are not part of the bible it can pose a problem/
Or you can just say Genesis 1 is less specific. But there are other differences too
well, maybe I'm just simple, but the way I saw it was- Genesis 1- you go through the 7 says- God did this, it was Good, God did that it was Good.. it is sort of an overview. Then you go into the Adam & Eve story of how it actually happened.
Then you get the whole lineage of Adam & Eve and how they all went South and God got annoyed with them and flooded them- and then the Noah story comes....
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
So many stories in the Bible don't have a scientific explanation, they just have the faith of those who believe in them. You could question how Jesus rose from the dead, how he was able to wander through the desert for 40 days, how he turned water into wine or even if you want to be literal what about the wine and bread that is transformed into body and blood everyday at mass.
I don't need Einstein to explain to me how or why these things happened or how them happening is impossible. I just believe based on what I have learned in my short time here and have faith.
George Michael was right gotta have faith faith faith.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
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Posted by JenniferEver
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having just recently read Genesis half way through Leviticus- I am not sure I get what you are referring to- as conflicting? Are you saying Adam & Eve and then Noah conflict each other?
They are two different points in time though- how are they conflicting?
Genesis 1:God created Male and Female.
Genesis 2: Creation story repeated. This time God puts Adam into a deep sleep and takes out his rib to create Eve.
The Noah story is separate. there are two intertwined stories that say things differently, but it;s much more complicated to explain.
ETA: I am a firm believer in the documentary hypothesis and these are two of the main examples of it in action in common bible stories.
Quite simply, they were stories interpreted differenty by different writers, which is logical. But if you don't go the DH route, or if you are one of the people who believe that human interp and error are not part of the bible it can pose a problem/
Or you can just say Genesis 1 is less specific. But there are other differences too
well, maybe I'm just simple, but the way I saw it was- Genesis 1- you go through the 7 says- God did this, it was Good, God did that it was Good.. it is sort of an overview. Then you go into the Adam & Eve story of how it actually happened.
Then you get the whole lineage of Adam & Eve and how they all went South and God got annoyed with them and flooded them- and then the Noah story comes....
yeah, I thought the first story was the Cliffnotes, but the second was the real story.
maybe that's why we say "the devil is in the details" 
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JenniferEver
But Catholics, which I know you are, are not literal interpreters of the bible. Some sects take the bible as word for word the literal word of God.
I personally don't think it NEEDS to reconciled. I'm perfectly happy with the bible having 2 stories for a number of reasons, but to someone who takes every word literally, I would think it would pose a problem. If not, then I really do want to hear why not.
I am geniunely curious about other people's beliefs for the most part, which is how I learned so much about Judaism. I didn't know many Jewish people before HS so I asked a lot of questions and took classes to understnad.
This thread is the same as me asking a Jewish person "Why don't you/Jews believe Jesus is the Messiah?" which is also a REALLY interesting conversation.
You have GOT to be kidding me. Lets go to the dictionary shall we.
FAITH: 2. belief that is not based on proof:
So the whole POINT of faith, is that it can't be rationaized. It just IS.
The thing is, it doesn't sound to me that you are interested in other people
s religion or views. It doesn't sound like you have a genuine interest in learning other people's views. You want people to rationally explain so you can understand.
The thing about faith and religion, it can't all be understood or rationally explained. Hence FAITH, which as was defined is a belief that is not based on proof. So no proof, but people still believe it, its FAITH.
So I hope you understand now, that no one can explain everything to you about their religion and what they believe because its based on FAITH. See. No proof, but people still believe it. The definition of Faith.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Sassyz75
having just recently read Genesis half way through Leviticus- I am not sure I get what you are referring to- as conflicting? Are you saying Adam & Eve and then Noah conflict each other?
They are two different points in time though- how are they conflicting?
Genesis 1:God created Male and Female.
Genesis 2: Creation story repeated. This time God puts Adam into a deep sleep and takes out his rib to create Eve.
The Noah story is separate. there are two intertwined stories that say things differently, but it;s much more complicated to explain.
ETA: I am a firm believer in the documentary hypothesis and these are two of the main examples of it in action in common bible stories.
Quite simply, they were stories interpreted differenty by different writers, which is logical. But if you don't go the DH route, or if you are one of the people who believe that human interp and error are not part of the bible it can pose a problem/
Or you can just say Genesis 1 is less specific. But there are other differences too
well, maybe I'm just simple, but the way I saw it was- Genesis 1- you go through the 7 says- God did this, it was Good, God did that it was Good.. it is sort of an overview. Then you go into the Adam & Eve story of how it actually happened.
Then you get the whole lineage of Adam & Eve and how they all went South and God got annoyed with them and flooded them- and then the Noah story comes....
yeah, I thought the first story was the Cliffnotes, but the second was the real story.
maybe that's why we say "the devil is in the details"
Makes sense!
My opinion is that they were written by different people at different times, so the values reflected were different. The same story seen through different lenses as reflected in many nuances throughout the story.
Maybe the people who wrote Genesis 1 believed man and woman were created at the same time, and the Gen 2 people were more patriarchal or wanted to be and made that part of the story to reflect their views on women.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Sassyz75
having just recently read Genesis half way through Leviticus- I am not sure I get what you are referring to- as conflicting? Are you saying Adam & Eve and then Noah conflict each other?
They are two different points in time though- how are they conflicting?
Genesis 1:God created Male and Female.
Genesis 2: Creation story repeated. This time God puts Adam into a deep sleep and takes out his rib to create Eve.
The Noah story is separate. there are two intertwined stories that say things differently, but it;s much more complicated to explain.
ETA: I am a firm believer in the documentary hypothesis and these are two of the main examples of it in action in common bible stories.
Quite simply, they were stories interpreted differenty by different writers, which is logical. But if you don't go the DH route, or if you are one of the people who believe that human interp and error are not part of the bible it can pose a problem/
Or you can just say Genesis 1 is less specific. But there are other differences too
well, maybe I'm just simple, but the way I saw it was- Genesis 1- you go through the 7 says- God did this, it was Good, God did that it was Good.. it is sort of an overview. Then you go into the Adam & Eve story of how it actually happened.
Then you get the whole lineage of Adam & Eve and how they all went South and God got annoyed with them and flooded them- and then the Noah story comes....
yeah, I thought the first story was the Cliffnotes, but the second was the real story.
maybe that's why we say "the devil is in the details"
Makes sense!
My opinion is that they were written by different people at different times, so the values reflected were different. The same story seen through different lenses as reflected in many nuances throughout the story.
Maybe the people who wrote Genesis 1 believed man and woman were created at the same time, and the Gen 2 people were more patriarchal or wanted to be and made that part of the story to reflect their views on women.
You are really beating a DEAD horse now. It may be time to just leave it alone.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JennZ
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Sassyz75
having just recently read Genesis half way through Leviticus- I am not sure I get what you are referring to- as conflicting? Are you saying Adam & Eve and then Noah conflict each other?
They are two different points in time though- how are they conflicting?
Genesis 1:God created Male and Female.
Genesis 2: Creation story repeated. This time God puts Adam into a deep sleep and takes out his rib to create Eve.
The Noah story is separate. there are two intertwined stories that say things differently, but it;s much more complicated to explain.
ETA: I am a firm believer in the documentary hypothesis and these are two of the main examples of it in action in common bible stories.
Quite simply, they were stories interpreted differenty by different writers, which is logical. But if you don't go the DH route, or if you are one of the people who believe that human interp and error are not part of the bible it can pose a problem/
Or you can just say Genesis 1 is less specific. But there are other differences too
well, maybe I'm just simple, but the way I saw it was- Genesis 1- you go through the 7 says- God did this, it was Good, God did that it was Good.. it is sort of an overview. Then you go into the Adam & Eve story of how it actually happened.
Then you get the whole lineage of Adam & Eve and how they all went South and God got annoyed with them and flooded them- and then the Noah story comes....
yeah, I thought the first story was the Cliffnotes, but the second was the real story.
maybe that's why we say "the devil is in the details"
Makes sense!
My opinion is that they were written by different people at different times, so the values reflected were different. The same story seen through different lenses as reflected in many nuances throughout the story.
Maybe the people who wrote Genesis 1 believed man and woman were created at the same time, and the Gen 2 people were more patriarchal or wanted to be and made that part of the story to reflect their views on women.
You are really beating a DEAD horse now. It may be time to just leave it alone.
Not really. I'm not discussing drama, I'm discussing the actual content at this point with people who answered the actual question being asked.
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Sassyz75
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Sassyz75
having just recently read Genesis half way through Leviticus- I am not sure I get what you are referring to- as conflicting? Are you saying Adam & Eve and then Noah conflict each other?
They are two different points in time though- how are they conflicting?
Genesis 1:God created Male and Female.
Genesis 2: Creation story repeated. This time God puts Adam into a deep sleep and takes out his rib to create Eve.
The Noah story is separate. there are two intertwined stories that say things differently, but it;s much more complicated to explain.
ETA: I am a firm believer in the documentary hypothesis and these are two of the main examples of it in action in common bible stories.
Quite simply, they were stories interpreted differenty by different writers, which is logical. But if you don't go the DH route, or if you are one of the people who believe that human interp and error are not part of the bible it can pose a problem/
Or you can just say Genesis 1 is less specific. But there are other differences too
well, maybe I'm just simple, but the way I saw it was- Genesis 1- you go through the 7 says- God did this, it was Good, God did that it was Good.. it is sort of an overview. Then you go into the Adam & Eve story of how it actually happened.
Then you get the whole lineage of Adam & Eve and how they all went South and God got annoyed with them and flooded them- and then the Noah story comes....
yeah, I thought the first story was the Cliffnotes, but the second was the real story.
maybe that's why we say "the devil is in the details"
Makes sense!
My opinion is that they were written by different people at different times, so the values reflected were different. The same story seen through different lenses as reflected in many nuances throughout the story.
Maybe the people who wrote Genesis 1 believed man and woman were created at the same time, and the Gen 2 people were more patriarchal or wanted to be and made that part of the story to reflect their views on women.
Well, that could be.
Or it could be that the Bible goes into depth re: creation of man/woman as man/woman are the readers of the Bible. The Bible is OUR story. So just to leave the creation as throwing man in with the other animals on the 6th day probably wouldn't (and doesn't) cut it- so they go into depth. That's the way I see it.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
OK, to the original question.
Whether you believe the bible was literally written by the hand of g-d, we have to discuss the issue of language.
These people you are posing the question to. Do you think they believe the Bible was written in English? Is there room for interpretive error? Because mistranslations in the King James bible have been recorded in history. Hence Michaelangelo's Moses' horns.
I am getting very confused. 
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by Shelly
OK, to the original question.
Whether you believe the bible was literally written by the hand of g-d, we have to discuss the issue of language.
These people you are posing the question to. Do you think they believe the Bible was written in English? Is there room for interpretive error? Because mistranslations in the King James bible have been recorded in history. Hence Michaelangelo's horns.
I am getting very confused.
No, I don't think they believe it's written in English (although some people might!)
I'd want to ask them these questions. I'm not sure what the answer is.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Every religon is based on Faith, not Fact - If anything were 100% factual there would be ONE religion -
But I think it's fair and responsible to a point to question your own faith, and to ask questions about others' .......without attacking, passing judgement or being rude -
That being said, you have to be willing to accept the person's response regardless of whether or not it 'makes sense' to you - Not everyone WANTS to question their faith, the teachings of their religon -
People are religious and spritual at different levels -
I was the kid who constantly got in trouble with the CCD teacher b/c I could NOT understand WHY I had to confess my sins to the priest iand have HIM tell me what prayers to say to God if God already saw everything that I did and I could just talk to God and apologize/explain myself .........WHAT did I need the priest for?? - No one could answer my question, and I will ask the same question (among many others) to this day ........ -This is how I choose to accept my faith and my religon .........I don't take everything at face value, I don't things just b/c the Church says so .........but MANY people choose to live their lives this way - For whatever reason - it helps them, it makes them happy, it gives them purpose - Who knows ??
It is a very personal and subjective topic, As long as they're not forcing their faith on you, you can't expect someone to EXPLAIN why they feel or believe in something so strongly in a way so that YOU (or anyone) can understand it .........
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by Shelly
I am getting very confused.
getting? i'm already there! I'll hold the door open for you!
this is definitely going around in circles. this is like asking the question "do you believe in Nostrodamus and his prophecies?". he looked into a ball and wrote down what he saw and people throughout time have translated it in different ways. some people believe him and some dont.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by MarisaK
Every religon is based on Faith, not Fact - If anything were 100% factual there would be ONE religion -
But I think it's fair and responsible to a point to question your own faith, and to ask questions about others' .......without attacking, passing judgement or being rude -
That being said, you have to be willing to accept the person's response regardless of whether or not it 'makes sense' to you - Not everyone WANTS to question their faith, the teachings of their religon -
People are religious and spritual at different levels -
I was the kid who constantly got in trouble with the CCD teacher b/c I could NOT understand WHY I had to confess my sins to the priest iand have HIM tell me what prayers to say to God if God already saw everything that I did and I could just talk to God and apologize/explain myself .........WHAT did I need the priest for?? - No one could answer my question, and I will ask the same question (among many others) to this day ........ -This is how I choose to accept my faith and my religon .........I don't take everything at face value, I don't things just b/c the Church says so .........but MANY people choose to live their lives this way - For whatever reason - it helps them, it makes them happy, it gives them purpose - Who knows ??
It is a very personal and subjective topic, As long as they're not forcing their faith on you, you can't expect someone to EXPLAIN why they feel or believe in something so strongly in a way so that YOU (or anyone) can understand it .........
I agree.
In my own religion (Jewish), it is career to learn the Torah. It is what people do their whole lives. They learn and try to understand. And these are people who beleive everything they are reading. They literally spend a lifetime trying to understand it all.
You can't expect someone to explain their religion to you sufficiently enough that you can understand it, without their faith. You just can't.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Really i'm surprised. People seem to think that when I ask a question I expect everyone to answer or that they have to answer me.
Obviously you all think I'm a lot more important than I do.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JenniferEver
Really i'm surprised. People seem to think that when I ask a question I expect everyone to answer or that they have to answer me.
Obviously you all think I'm a lot more important than I do.
When you are the one asking the question who else should the answers be addressed to?
Does me asking this make you feel important?
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
There are some Christians that believe that the Bible IS Gods word spoken to the prophets. Basically the persons hand was Gods pencil. Thus, the Bible is perfect.
If the these people believe that the Bible is perfect, then why would they not believe in the creation story? And if they choose not to believe in creation, then what else can they CHOOSE not to believe in.
Personally, I feel these people of FAITH are admirable. I may not believe in what they do, but I find they devotion to Gods word inspiring.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JenniferEver
Really i'm surprised. People seem to think that when I ask a question I expect everyone to answer or that they have to answer me.
Obviously you all think I'm a lot more important than I do.
No, it's because in a prior thread you expressed your frustration with the response "because I do" to your questions about religion.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by rojerono
St. Augustine once said "God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed.."
I don't need to understand why God chose to put conflicting stories in the bible.
I don't need to understand why evolution seems to be so much more likely than the story of Creation.
I don't need to understand why God put me on this planet.
I don't need to understand if my bible is better than your bible or her Torah.
Because I don't think I have the capacity to understand the motivations or actions of a being as supreme as the God that I believe in. I don't question God. I just do my best to carry out His commands as best I can with my limited mortal vision and understanding.
I also will not tell you that your understanding of God's will is better or worse than mine. Because I don't know that. I just know what my heart and my faith tell ME.
If that makes me stupid or naive or ignorant in anyone's eyes, I am okay with that.
ITA
The bible was written by man inspired by God. There are many different versions of the bible (King James, New Testament, ETc) If you look through them the same text sometimes read different although the message is still somewhat the same. As for me I believe in the Bible but my Faith comes from the miracles and prayers that God has answered in my life personally.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Religion will always be a heated debate but among adults we should be able to discuss without anger.
I question Catholicism constantly- the beliefs taught to me after 12 years of Catholic school do not sit right with me and I feel as if many times these contradictions are swept under the rug.
When it comes to the Bible- I too took a course in college to dissect many parts and found it to be incredibly exhilirating! To have a professor discuss the Bible that I was taught was unfallible was amazing.
I cannot answer the OP b/c I do believe the Bible is equal to Grimm's Brothers Fairy Tales- stories passed down from generation to generation to teach lessons.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Jennifer, I have a question for you. And I ask YOU this, not because I think you are so important, but because all day you have been asking people their beliefs and to explain their faith.
You said you were Catholic and I believe you also said that you were religious.Can you explain every aspect of your faith that you believe, such as Jesus conception, the holy trinity and the resurrection, if you believe them?
I was raised that these are things that cannot be explained logically. They are based on faith. And because of that, I respect it and (until now) I never asked anyone to explain it or prove it to me, because it was my understanding there is no proof. Its based on faith. And I respect that, even if its not my own beliefs.
But you don't seem to get that concept- the faith that some have. And i feel so sad for you. It truly is a beautiful thing.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by Shelly
Jennifer, I have a question for you. And I ask YOU this, not because I think you are so important, but because all day you have been asking people their beliefs and to explain their faith.
You said you were Catholic and I believe you also said that you were religious.Can you explain every aspect of your faith that you believe, such as Jesus conception, the holy trinity and the resurrection, if you believe them?
I was raised that these are things that cannot be explained logically. They are based on faith. And because of that, I respect it and (until now) I never asked anyone to explain it or prove it to me, because it was my understanding there is no proof. Its based on faith. And I respect that, even if its not my own beliefs.
But you don't seem to get that concept- the faith that some have. And i feel so sad for you. It truly is a beautiful thing.
I don't misunderstand faith, and I really find it insulting that you would try to say that I lack it. I have never made that acucsation against anyone.
What was brought up were NOT Why do you believe in god?
but two separate issues that have evidence for and against and can theroetically be reasoned about and discussed
the first was evolution. there is evidence of evolution occuring. the question was people who reject that evidence of that one scientific conept, not questioning a belief in god.
the second was an example of specific passage in the bible..again not god him/herself but a book and facts about the book.
NEVER did anyone say "Why do you believe in God?"
Not the same questions.
The belief in God is a complete leap of faith. Although some have tried I don't think you can really make objective arguments for and against. But you can make arguments for and against evolution and of one interpretation of the bible.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by Shelly
Jennifer, I have a question for you. And I ask YOU this, not because I think you are so important, but because all day you have been asking people their beliefs and to explain their faith.
You said you were Catholic and I believe you also said that you were religious.Can you explain every aspect of your faith that you believe, such as Jesus conception, the holy trinity and the resurrection, if you believe them?
I was raised that these are things that cannot be explained logically. They are based on faith. And because of that, I respect it and (until now) I never asked anyone to explain it or prove it to me, because it was my understanding there is no proof. Its based on faith. And I respect that, even if its not my own beliefs.
But you don't seem to get that concept- the faith that some have. And i feel so sad for you. It truly is a beautiful thing.
I don't misunderstand faith, and I really find it insulting that you would try to say that I lack it. I have never made that acucsation against anyone.
What was brought up were NOT Why do you believe in god?
but two separate issues that have evidence for and against and can theroetically be reasoned about and discussed
the first was evolution. there is evidence of evolution occuring. the question was people who reject that evidence of that one scientific conept, not questioning a belief in god.
the second was an example of specific passage in the bible..again not god him/herself but a book and facts about the book.
NEVER did anyone say "Why do you believe in God?"
Not the same questions.
The belief in God is a complete leap of faith. Although some have tried I don't think you can really make objective arguments for and against. But you can make arguments for and against evolution and of one interpretation of the bible.
Oh my god, (no pun intended) Jennifer, you are contradicting yourself more and more with each post. Please, let's just put an end to this already.
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
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Bxgell2
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Re: Honest question for literal bible interpreters
Posted by lipglossjunky73
WHAT THE ???????????
Hysterics... can't type... laughing too hard....
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