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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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And the fact that he told ppl he didn't want kids and Now he's left with his son, is completely disgusting.
This makes me think it was a suicide- and she wanted to take her children, the children he didn't want, with her. That man knows more than he's letting on.
I dont believe it was suicide. Her stopping at the rest stops, going into the stores, clearly looking for something. I truly doubt that she would have killed herself, her children AND her neices. I just find that hard to believe, that she would take her 3 neices lives as well. That would make her a monster, which I dont believe she was at all.
(Not saying you arent entitled to your opinion, just responding to it)
Yes I agree with you. I think something happened with her tooth that caused so much pain she just lost it. I really cant wrap my head around it. I do feel bad for her husband, he is searching for answers he will never have. I think it is time for him to try and move on with his life for his little boys sake.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by KellyNYC
I also wondered if it was a suicide. Some of the witnesses said at first she was swerving and out of control. But then when she got on the wrong ramp to enter the parkway, the witnesses said she was pin straight and very determined, not to be swayed off course. That stuck with me. Maybe she started out on the trip just wanting to self medicate/escape/whatever after a fight or something but then as she was more and more under the influence decided to end her life. But I don't understand why she would take her nieces with her.
My dh said the same thing. He could see suicide if it was just her and her own kids in the car but why her nieces?
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| Posted 7/26/11 9:45 AM |
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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Posted by KellyNYC
I also wondered if it was a suicide. Some of the witnesses said at first she was swerving and out of control. But then when she got on the wrong ramp to enter the parkway, the witnesses said she was pin straight and very determined, not to be swayed off course. That stuck with me. Maybe she started out on the trip just wanting to self medicate/escape/whatever after a fight or something but then as she was more and more under the influence decided to end her life. But I don't understand why she would take her nieces with her.
My dh said the same thing. He could see suicide if it was just her and her own kids in the car but why her nieces?
Unless she wanted to punish her brother and SIL for something. She sounded like a very controlling and begrudging person with a lot of pent up bitterness and anger who had no problem cutting people out of her life. But I want to stop short of saying she is an outright murderer of children. We just don't know.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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Posted by KellyNYC
I also wondered if it was a suicide. Some of the witnesses said at first she was swerving and out of control. But then when she got on the wrong ramp to enter the parkway, the witnesses said she was pin straight and very determined, not to be swayed off course. That stuck with me. Maybe she started out on the trip just wanting to self medicate/escape/whatever after a fight or something but then as she was more and more under the influence decided to end her life. But I don't understand why she would take her nieces with her.
My dh said the same thing. He could see suicide if it was just her and her own kids in the car but why her nieces?
I think when you are in that type of moment, you are thinking irrationally, and don't care who you bring down with you. Of course I have never been there, nor have any of us, so it's hard to speculate.
But, after reading that link posted above about her driving down that road the correct way, then going back down it the wrong way (basically scouting a location), and hearing the witness accounts of her driving pin straight while going the wrong way with that determined look on her face, I think it was a suicide. So sad
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by BargainMama
I think when you are in that type of moment, you are thinking irrationally, and don't care who you bring down with you.
100% agree. Good point.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by hazeleyes33
If I had HBO I might have just out of curiousity but I am not behind him either.
I always thought and always will think that he knew his wife drank and smoke. There is NO way living with someone (and being with them all that weekend) you don't know that.
Sorry, just my 2 cents.
Agree. I have HBO but I didn't watch it.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
The fact remains that nobody will ever REALLY know exactly what happened. We can speculate all day long about how she was a controlling woman, how she held grudges, how she didn't follow her DH home, what conversations she had with her DH. I also don't think you can get a good look at someone's face when they are driving the wrong way towards you at 70 MPH and you are going at least 60 MPH. So the eyewitnesses who say she had a determined look on her face, I'm not so sure about that. All we know for certain is that she drove the wrong way on the parkway and killed herself, 4 innocent children and 3 innocent men. We know that she had alcohol and marajuana in her blood.
We will never know what was going through her head at that moment.
People are going to be on 1 of 2 sides. One side believes she is a monster who purposely drove drunk and killed innocent people or that she was on a suicide mission. The other side believes that maybe there is a chance something went wrong in her brain to cause her to lose it, do things that don't make sense. And unfortunately, that is the legacy she leaves for her poor son. All I know is that if I were the surviving spouse in this situation, I would want to find some sort of explanation so that my child didn't have to grow up hearing people speak horrible things about his dead parent.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
I didn't see the documentary but have been slightly obsessed with the facts.
The suicide/affair theory makes sense. To gulp down that much alcohol in a short time, that says angry to me. Angry that her DH is leaving her kind of angry.
The DH isn't telling the whole story which makes me even more disgusted that he'd be throwing up some kind of smokescreen & participating in this TV show.
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Schuler filed a lawsuit Monday against the state saying the Taconic State Parkway is poorly designed and the lack of signs led his wife to enter the northbound parkway heading south.
As much as I do find fault with the DH, I think this has some merit. The Taconic is a scary road to drive. Wiki/NHST says it's the 2nd most deadly in Duchess County.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
I watched it, and I can't stop thinking about it. Feeling so heartbroken for the Hance's and Bryan (the little boy)...angry at Diane Schuler...but there's still a small part of me that thinks she didn't do it on purpose. Hope gives me comfort when i think about this dark story. 
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by nrthshgrl
I didn't see the documentary but have been slightly obsessed with the facts.
The suicide/affair theory makes sense. To gulp down that much alcohol in a short time, that says angry to me. Angry that her DH is leaving her kind of angry.
The DH isn't telling the whole story which makes me even more disgusted that he'd be throwing up some kind of smokescreen & participating in this TV show.
Posted by LJZ10
Schuler filed a lawsuit Monday against the state saying the Taconic State Parkway is poorly designed and the lack of signs led his wife to enter the northbound parkway heading south.
As much as I do find fault with the DH, I think this has some merit. The Taconic is a scary road to drive. Wiki/NHST says it's the 2nd most deadly in Duchess County.
Please, in the area of the accident there are plenty of clues that you are going the wrong way and plenty of space to pull over and out of the way.
Fact is she was drunk so all the signs in the world wouldn't have helped her.
Hope the state throws the suit out and makes him pay for any legal fees.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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Posted by nrthshgrl
I didn't see the documentary but have been slightly obsessed with the facts.
The suicide/affair theory makes sense. To gulp down that much alcohol in a short time, that says angry to me. Angry that her DH is leaving her kind of angry.
The DH isn't telling the whole story which makes me even more disgusted that he'd be throwing up some kind of smokescreen & participating in this TV show.
Posted by LJZ10
Schuler filed a lawsuit Monday against the state saying the Taconic State Parkway is poorly designed and the lack of signs led his wife to enter the northbound parkway heading south.
As much as I do find fault with the DH, I think this has some merit. The Taconic is a scary road to drive. Wiki/NHST says it's the 2nd most deadly in Duchess County.
Please, in the area of the accident there are plenty of clues that you are going the wrong way and plenty of space to pull over and out of the way.
Fact is she was drunk so all the signs in the world wouldn't have helped her.
Hope the state throws the suit out and makes him pay for any legal fees.
Agreed. While I don't care for the Taconic, "clearer" signs wouldnt have helped her.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
There is something about her husband that rubs me the wrong way...since day 1 that I saw this story. He definitely is hiding something.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by jacquig
There is something about her husband that rubs me the wrong way...since day 1 that I saw this story. He definitely is hiding something.
ITA!!
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by nycchic24
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by nrthshgrl
I didn't see the documentary but have been slightly obsessed with the facts.
The suicide/affair theory makes sense. To gulp down that much alcohol in a short time, that says angry to me. Angry that her DH is leaving her kind of angry.
The DH isn't telling the whole story which makes me even more disgusted that he'd be throwing up some kind of smokescreen & participating in this TV show.
Posted by LJZ10
Schuler filed a lawsuit Monday against the state saying the Taconic State Parkway is poorly designed and the lack of signs led his wife to enter the northbound parkway heading south.
As much as I do find fault with the DH, I think this has some merit. The Taconic is a scary road to drive. Wiki/NHST says it's the 2nd most deadly in Duchess County.
Please, in the area of the accident there are plenty of clues that you are going the wrong way and plenty of space to pull over and out of the way.
Fact is she was drunk so all the signs in the world wouldn't have helped her.
Hope the state throws the suit out and makes him pay for any legal fees.
Agreed. While I don't care for the Taconic, "clearer" signs wouldnt have helped her.
I think the fault lies with the driver. But I don't see how anyone can dispute that the Taconic is a dangerous road. If anything, you heighten your awareness while on that road.
On top of that, they put up several "Wrong Way" signs after another wrong way crash on the Taconic. I recall there being at least 2 more after the Schuler case.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by jerseypanda
The fact remains that nobody will ever REALLY know exactly what happened. We can speculate all day long about how she was a controlling woman, how she held grudges, how she didn't follow her DH home, what conversations she had with her DH. I also don't think you can get a good look at someone's face when they are driving the wrong way towards you at 70 MPH and you are going at least 60 MPH. So the eyewitnesses who say she had a determined look on her face, I'm not so sure about that. All we know for certain is that she drove the wrong way on the parkway and killed herself, 4 innocent children and 3 innocent men. We know that she had alcohol and marajuana in her blood.
We will never know what was going through her head at that moment.
People are going to be on 1 of 2 sides. One side believes she is a monster who purposely drove drunk and killed innocent people or that she was on a suicide mission. The other side believes that maybe there is a chance something went wrong in her brain to cause her to lose it, do things that don't make sense. And unfortunately, that is the legacy she leaves for her poor son. All I know is that if I were the surviving spouse in this situation, I would want to find some sort of explanation so that my child didn't have to grow up hearing people speak horrible things about his dead parent.
ITA, well said.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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There is something about her husband that rubs me the wrong way...since day 1 that I saw this story. He definitely is hiding something.
10000% agree
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| Posted 7/26/11 11:53 AM |
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
There is something that is just not sitting right with me.
I dont like the husband. The relationship with the SIL is weird, to close.
The doctor theybmet with who did the autopsy for the second time, he was the defenses dr for Casey Anthony.
The witnesses who called and reported what theynsaw thatnday all said the same thing. She was driving out of control but with a mission.
The cell phone on the side of the road?? Why??
The PI who up and left? Why?
And, the whole I didnt want to have kids bit, and getting upset with the son....disgusting.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by JennZ
There is something that is just not sitting right with me.
I dont like the husband. The relationship with the SIL is weird, to close.
The doctor theybmet with who did the autopsy for the second time, he was the defenses dr for Casey Anthony.
The witnesses who called and reported what theynsaw thatnday all said the same thing. She was driving out of control but with a mission.
The cell phone on the side of the road?? Why??
The PI who up and left? Why?
And, the whole I didnt want to have kids bit, and getting upset with the son....disgusting.
I dont know...cant she just be a SIL who is devastated for her nephew and BIL, and wants to help?
And as for the cell phone, why couldnt she have been pulled over, out of the car, getting sick, and laid her phone there, forgetting it was left there and get back in the car and drive? People with less confusion and upset leave their cell phones places everyday, kwim? I dont think the cell phone being left there means a thing.
Also...as for her being on a mission, she could have been so out of it that she just lost all senses and thought she was dreaming or such, kwim?
I dont know what to make of it all. I also dont think its odd her DH drove home and she took the kids and did her own thing. She had a car full of kids. Not odd the kids all went with her and all wanted to be together. She took them to eat. She got gas. I just dont buy she was planning to kill herself and all of them, got gas and food to kill them all.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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Posted by JennZ
There is something that is just not sitting right with me.
I dont like the husband. The relationship with the SIL is weird, to close.
The doctor theybmet with who did the autopsy for the second time, he was the defenses dr for Casey Anthony.
The witnesses who called and reported what theynsaw thatnday all said the same thing. She was driving out of control but with a mission.
The cell phone on the side of the road?? Why??
The PI who up and left? Why?
And, the whole I didnt want to have kids bit, and getting upset with the son....disgusting.
I dont know...cant she just be a SIL who is devastated for her nephew and BIL, and wants to help?
And as for the cell phone, why couldnt she have been pulled over, out of the car, getting sick, and laid her phone there, forgetting it was left there and get back in the car and drive? People with less confusion and upset leave their cell phones places everyday, kwim? I dont think the cell phone being left there means a thing.
Also...as for her being on a mission, she could have been so out of it that she just lost all senses and thought she was dreaming or such, kwim?
I dont know what to make of it all. I also dont think its odd her DH drove home and she took the kids and did her own thing. She had a car full of kids. Not odd the kids all went with her and all wanted to be together. She took them to eat. She got gas. I just dont buy she was planning to kill herself and all of them, got gas and food to kill them all.
So what do you truly believe happened? I mean, there's not doubt the liquor and pot was in her system. Do you think she did that to numb pain? Do you think what they did? Did she think the vodka was water? Just curious to know what you think happened.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
I can see the logic behind the theory that she had a bad tooth...tried to get pain meds...took a few swigs (that turned out to be a few more) and when that didn't work, took a few hits of pot (she smoked nightly). I didn't have an abscess, but an infection and it was awful pain.
Being that her BAC was .2, leaving her phone (didn't she get out of the car when talking to her brother?), getting on the wrong road in the wrong direction (if it were suicide, I would think she would be driving towards the city with more traffic), is plausible...my old roommate lost her phone, purse and wallet on multiple occasions and I bet she was under .2
While the Taconic is twisty and curvy, the part where the accident was (north of Tappen zee/287) is not nearly as bad.
tragic...
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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So what do you truly believe happened? I mean, there's not doubt the liquor and pot was in her system. Do you think she did that to numb pain? Do you think what they did? Did she think the vodka was water? Just curious to know what you think happened.
there's a possibility she chugged it for pain, causing her judgement to fail, but that wouldn't explain NOT pulling over, NOT staying put to wait for help at any of the rest stops, patches of grass, side roads. being a control freak myself, i can understand wanting to take situations in my own hands, but when there are children involved, no matter what - their safety comes first.
then i think about her marriage and see something is wrong there, not sure what or why, but it's something - and this makes me think about the possibility that she was drinking her emotions away - and loss her mind completely in that process.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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So what do you truly believe happened? I mean, there's not doubt the liquor and pot was in her system. Do you think she did that to numb pain? Do you think what they did? Did she think the vodka was water? Just curious to know what you think happened.
there's a possibility she chugged it for pain, causing her judgement to fail, but that wouldn't explain NOT pulling over, NOT staying put to wait for help at any of the rest stops, patches of grass, side roads. being a control freak myself, i can understand wanting to take situations in my own hands, but when there are children involved, no matter what - their safety comes first.
then i think about her marriage and see something is wrong there, not sure what or why, but it's something - and this makes me think about the possibility that she was drinking her emotions away - and loss her mind completely in that process.
I agree with this. I think something happened at that camp site before they left. Whether the owner of the camp site saw or heard a fight or not. She can't be in all places at one time..it was a big place. Who knows what went down. Maybe she found something out about him..maybe he found something out about her? I don't know what it was, but I feel like something huge happened before they left. There were no signs of stroke, so thats out. I am a control freak as well but I know for a fact that if I have kids with me or if I am in any kind of pain, I handle it the proper way no matter how controlling I am. I cant say she set out to do this..but even the way she pulled out of the gas station was nuts. Especially nuts with a car filled with kids. I wish we had answers..all I know is that I DO NOT trust her husband. And something is up with the SIL. She said she was surprised when they asked her to be goddaughter to Erin. They weren't close. That was obvious. It's all just too weird. There are TONS of hidden facts, that I am SURE of!
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by nycchic24
So what do you truly believe happened? I mean, there's not doubt the liquor and pot was in her system. Do you think she did that to numb pain? Do you think what they did? Did she think the vodka was water? Just curious to know what you think happened.
I really dont know. I think she was hung over, searching for tylenol for a hangover. Probably had alot of booze and pot in her system already from the night before. Maybe was ****** off at her DH for something. Maybe was in pain from the hangover and since she couldnt find tylenol drank some vodka to help ease her anger, hangover, etc. And just had too much too quickly, esp based on what was already in her system. Or she was a closet drinker, drug taker, prescription drug taker, etc, and no one knew it. Or she got a bad batch of pot that made her insane or hallucinate (if this is possible). I believe she was doing something drug or alcohol related more often and she kept it all together until that day. Honestly, I have never smoked pot or a cigarette or ever tried either. But I have to say my thoughts and that is if someone smokes pot at ALL imo, I have to question how often and under what circumstances. Her DH lied, about the vodka...and that she didnt drink that weekend. Then why was there a bottle of vodka there? Her DH also lied about the pot...said BARELY, yet the SIL said she smoked to "fall asleep at night". To me, she maybe was able to conquer it all (work, be a good mom, "Iron" "do laundry, on little sleep, b/c she was ON something, drugs or alcohol or such).
I dont buy the abcess or toothache theory. I just dont. Her own DH would not know she had a persistent toothache?
Yes, I think the DH is hiding something for sure. He was already caught in lies.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
Posted by dewdrop
there's a possibility she chugged it for pain, causing her judgement to fail, but that wouldn't explain NOT pulling over, NOT staying put to wait for help at any of the rest stops, patches of grass, side roads. .
Maybe she didnt want to get caught by her Brother or DH that she had been drinking or smoked while driving, so thats why she had a mission to get home asap and did not remain pulled over.
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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"
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Posted by jacquig
There is something about her husband that rubs me the wrong way...since day 1 that I saw this story. He definitely is hiding something.
ITA!!
Me too! I personally feel they could find the answers they are looking for by being able to be honest with themselves. They know more truth than they want to reveal
Such a tragedy.
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