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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
Posted by SweetTooth
Not to beat a dead horse (sorry, dead horse  ), but here's a question:
Since most who are against it base their opinions on the views of the Catholic church - why should our country base its laws on the views of the Catholic Church? (or any other religion, for that matter) I always thought one of the wonderful things about living in the U.S. was that we have a separation between religion and government.
I completely agree! I am 100% pro-gay marriage. If a specific church or faith does not want to perform the ceremonies or acknowledge the union, that is their right. But that group does not have the right to dictate laws that govern everyone.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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No WHERE in the bible does it mention gay's or marriage.
For the record I am pro gay marriage, but it actually does mention gays and marriage for procreation in the Old Testament.
Genesis 9:1
God blessed Noah and his sons and said "Be fertile and multiply and fill the earth
Leviticus 19:22
You shall not lie with a male as a woman, such a thing is an abomination
Like I said, if 2 people are in love and want to get married I'm all for it. I dont want this to turn into a religious debate, but these words were taken from the Old Testament, not from Catholic Doctrine.
Maybe I'm dumb, but I don't see where either of these things mention gays or marriage?
Leviticus 18, the sanctity of sex, the Lord had given the word to Moses what was a sin and what was not. Including having sex with a family member, having sex with a woman on her menstrual, having sex with an animal and having sex with another man. I thought it was obvious what it referred to. But then again, it is the bible and open to everyones interpretation 
But this has been disputed so many times over. I do understand some standing by the translation, but that translation has been questioned as wrong, and some even say Jesus abolished those "laws" ..
So confusing.
Im not that knowledgable about the bible so I cannot say much more.
it also states not to eat shellfish or pork but Catholics do, yet say no to Gay marriage?
I guess I question the picking and choosing of whats what.
But again, I could be slightly wrong, I only have a small understanding of much of the bible.
I absolutley agree. Catholics choose to eat shellfish and pork but jews do not (well those who keep kosher lol), but its the way that people choose to interpret what the bible says to them. I am a devout Catholic who is pro-life, but I fully support gay marriage, more so now that my own 1st cousin has come out (and will be Godfather to my new baby), I would be devestated if he was denied marrying the love of his life.
I'm sorry to have brought biblical references into this, but I kinda get a tad defensive when the Catholic church is brought into every debate (I know I know the church is behind a lot of what causes it).
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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I am strongly AGAINST gay marriages. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman that protects and benefits their offsprings. It has nothing to do with gay love etc. It will never change in my mind!
I am however, very much FOR a legalized union between gay couples that allows them to be covered under their SO's insurance and inherit property.
Isn't it all semantics? Why not just say "heterosexual marriage" and "homosexual marriage"?
I mean, really the word "marriage" is self created. Sure, 200 years ago the "definition" meant between a man and a woman, but 200 years ago "voting citizen" also meant white man. The words we create as a society take on different meanings as we evolve, as they should. The fact is, what it all boils down to, no matter what the word is, what it entails or means, the end result should be that ALL people in this country, no matter what sex, race, religion, national origin AND sexual orientation, should entitled to the same benefits and rights as every OTHER person.
BUT that's YOUR opinion. Again, everybody does not feel that way. Some people like me do believe that a "normal" union is between a man and a woman. How ever your slice? And I have not mentioned religion.
I don't think anyone of us have said they were not entitled to benefits and medical, ec...
I understand that it is your opinion, I'm not trying to devalue that - I'm just trying to point out that there is no "norm" really - what was normal 300 years ago certainly isn't normal now, in a whole slew of religious, political, ideological, etc., realms. "Normal" evolves and changes as our society evolves and changes. Personally, I think this Country, and the world, has evolved sufficiently to change the meaning of a "normal" marriage.
Well, actually, "norm" as you say is a union between a man and a woman for the simple reason: only that kind of union ( legal or not) produces children which is the main and ONLY reason mother nature provided us with genitals, libido and other such things that brings male and female together. Humans were "designed" with very specific functions.
The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man. Is that a reason to hate someone? No. It is what it is and for some strange reason they are not like the rest of us. They still deserve happiness and being protected by laws. Which is why I am for legal union.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
I have no problem with gay people being able to get married or have children!
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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I am strongly AGAINST gay marriages. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman that protects and benefits their offsprings. It has nothing to do with gay love etc. It will never change in my mind!
I am however, very much FOR a legalized union between gay couples that allows them to be covered under their SO's insurance and inherit property.
couldn't have said it better
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
I think people should do what makes them happy, why should anyone else care if its not harming them in any way.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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I am strongly AGAINST gay marriages. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman that protects and benefits their offsprings. It has nothing to do with gay love etc. It will never change in my mind!
I am however, very much FOR a legalized union between gay couples that allows them to be covered under their SO's insurance and inherit property.
couldn't have said it better
If that's your definition of marriage, then I don't see how you can support the marriage of people who are physically unable or unwilling to have children. (Maybe you don't?)
Also, are you against adoption? What about gay couples adopting?
ETA - No, you of course don't have to answer -- these are just the questions I have when I see this explanation. You're not under any obligation to further justify your position if you don't want to.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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I am strongly AGAINST gay marriages. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman that protects and benefits their offsprings. It has nothing to do with gay love etc. It will never change in my mind!
I am however, very much FOR a legalized union between gay couples that allows them to be covered under their SO's insurance and inherit property.
couldn't have said it better
If that's your definition of marriage, then I don't see how you can support the marriage of people who are physically unable or unwilling to have children. (Maybe you don't?)
Also, are you against adoption? What about gay couples adopting?
ETA - No, you of course don't have to answer -- these are just the questions I have when I see this explanation. You're not under any obligation to further justify your position if you don't want to.
and i won't
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
Posted by WhatNow
The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man.
possibly for the rest of the animal kingdom, but humans are separated somewhat from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to be rational (or irrational)
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
Posted by WhatNow
Well, actually, "norm" as you say is a union between a man and a woman for the simple reason: only that kind of union ( legal or not) produces children which is the main and ONLY reason mother nature provided us with genitals, libido and other such things that brings male and female together. Humans were "designed" with very specific functions.
The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man. Is that a reason to hate someone? No. It is what it is and for some strange reason they are not like the rest of us. They still deserve happiness and being protected by laws. Which is why I am for legal union.
Well, this is my point EXACTLY. "Normal" has already adapted and evolved to conform to our new, ideological ideals, because there are PLENTY of couples who are married, who simply cannot, or choose not to procreate. Applying this very black and white definition to marriage, would exclude a potentially large population of people. But, we don't, becuase as a society we recognize that marriage, at least now, is not simply for the pure act of procreation.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
Leviticus 18, the sanctity of sex, the Lord had given the word to Moses what was a sin and what was not. Including having sex with a family member, having sex with a woman on her menstrual, having sex with an animal and having sex with another man. I thought it was obvious what it referred to. But then again, it is the bible and open to everyones interpretation
But this has been disputed so many times over. I do understand some standing by the translation, but that translation has been questioned as wrong, and some even say Jesus abolished those "laws" ..
So confusing.
Im not that knowledgable about the bible so I cannot say much more.
it also states not to eat shellfish or pork but Catholics do, yet say no to Gay marriage?
I guess I question the picking and choosing of whats what.
But again, I could be slightly wrong, I only have a small understanding of much of the bible.
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And therein lies the problem with religion...any religion. And thats MY opinion, not what i think anyone else should believe.
people pick and chose what they want to believe based on whats convenient for them, following outdated, irrelevant 'laws' made up by some old men a long time ago. You can find passages in the Bible or Torah or Quoran (sp?) to fit just about
any idea you wish to justify.
As a previous poster said - its like when people used to justify racism or sexism by pointing to passages in the Bible.
I think gays should have the same right as anyone. Marriage is a loving union - as someone who's not religious, marriage is just as sacred to me as it is to anyone else and theres no reason gays shouldn't enjoy the same benefits as i get to.
I just get so upset when i hear people try and justify why 2 loving human beings shouldn't enjoy the same privileges and rights as a man and woman do if they love each other and want to get married. How degrading to tell them they're not 'normal' or they're just not quite as important as the rest of us. its disturbing.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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I am strongly AGAINST gay marriages. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman that protects and benefits their offsprings. It has nothing to do with gay love etc. It will never change in my mind!
I am however, very much FOR a legalized union between gay couples that allows them to be covered under their SO's insurance and inherit property.
couldn't have said it better
If that's your definition of marriage, then I don't see how you can support the marriage of people who are physically unable or unwilling to have children. (Maybe you don't?)
Also, are you against adoption? What about gay couples adopting?
ETA - No, you of course don't have to answer -- these are just the questions I have when I see this explanation. You're not under any obligation to further justify your position if you don't want to.
and i won't
I dont think its about justify but maybe "Explain". Im always curious about peoples opinions and how they are formed and Im not above changing my own if Im presented with info to do so.
That said, Im also sometimes a hypocrite and I can fullya dmit to it when it occurs.
So I do question some people ( not just don b/c I quoted it) but others who IMO pick and choose what they follow and what they believe based on comfort level alone.
Hope that makes sense.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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Leviticus 18, the sanctity of sex, the Lord had given the word to Moses what was a sin and what was not. Including having sex with a family member, having sex with a woman on her menstrual, having sex with an animal and having sex with another man. I thought it was obvious what it referred to. But then again, it is the bible and open to everyones interpretation
But this has been disputed so many times over. I do understand some standing by the translation, but that translation has been questioned as wrong, and some even say Jesus abolished those "laws" ..
So confusing.
Im not that knowledgable about the bible so I cannot say much more.
it also states not to eat shellfish or pork but Catholics do, yet say no to Gay marriage?
I guess I question the picking and choosing of whats what.
But again, I could be slightly wrong, I only have a small understanding of much of the bible.
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And therein lies the problem with religion...any religion. And thats MY opinion, not what i think anyone else should believe.
people pick and chose what they want to believe based on whats convenient for them, following outdated, irrelevant 'laws' made up by some old men a long time ago. You can find passages in the Bible or Torah or Quoran (sp?) to fit just about
any idea you wish to justify.
As a previous poster said - its like when people used to justify racism or sexism by pointing to passages in the Bible.
I think gays should have the same right as anyone. Marriage is a loving union - as someone who's not religious, marriage is just as sacred to me as it is to anyone else and theres no reason gays shouldn't enjoy the same benefits as i get to.
I just get so upset when i hear people try and justify why 2 loving human beings shouldn't enjoy the same privileges and rights as a man and woman do if they love each other and want to get married. How degrading to tell them they're not 'normal' or they're just not quite as important as the rest of us. its disturbing.
I agree....
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
I think if you are lucky enough to fall in love with someone that falls in love with you - you are blessed. Go, get married and you shouldn't have to explain yourself or answer to anyone.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man.
possibly for the rest of the animal kingdom, but humans are separated somewhat from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to be rational (or irrational)
THat is indeed true, however I am not sure what this argument has to do with our discussion on "norm" in sexual attraction. Our sexuality has nothing to do with rational. It is instinct!
Men are attracted to women and visa versa because their bodies are designed that way in order to procreate. It is an instinct that nature gave us in order for our species to survive. If we are attracted to a person of the same sex, our instincts are going against nature because obviously that union can not produce offsprings. It is, therefore, "abnormal".
It seems to be a general consensus that homosexuals are homosexuals because they are born that way not because they rationally decided to lead that lifestyle. So, I don't think rational plays a role here. We are all animals when it comes to sex.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
Posted by AmyG13
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Not to beat a dead horse (sorry, dead horse ), but here's a question:
Since most who are against it base their opinions on the views of the Catholic church - why should our country base its laws on the views of the Catholic Church? (or any other religion, for that matter) I always thought one of the wonderful things about living in the U.S. was that we have a separation between religion and government.
I completely agree! I am 100% pro-gay marriage. If a specific church or faith does not want to perform the ceremonies or acknowledge the union, that is their right. But that group does not have the right to dictate laws that govern everyone.
I agree that this is an excellent point.
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The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man.
possibly for the rest of the animal kingdom, but humans are separated somewhat from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to be rational (or irrational)
THat is indeed true, however I am not sure what this argument has to do with our discussion on "norm" in sexual attraction. Our sexuality has nothing to do with rational. It is instinct!
Men are attracted to women and visa versa because their bodies are designed that way in order to procreate. It is an instinct that nature gave us in order for our species to survive. If we are attracted to a person of the same sex, our instincts are going against nature because obviously that union can not produce offsprings. It is, therefore, "abnormal".
It seems to be a general consensus that homosexuals are homosexuals because they are born that way not because they rationally decided to lead that lifestyle. So, I don't think rational plays a role here. We are all animals when it comes to sex.
And as I've stated before, homosexuality in animals other than humans is well documented and does occur.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man.
possibly for the rest of the animal kingdom, but humans are separated somewhat from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to be rational (or irrational)
THat is indeed true, however I am not sure what this argument has to do with our discussion on "norm" in sexual attraction. Our sexuality has nothing to do with rational. It is instinct!
Men are attracted to women and visa versa because their bodies are designed that way in order to procreate. It is an instinct that nature gave us in order for our species to survive. If we are attracted to a person of the same sex, our instincts are going against nature because obviously that union can not produce offsprings. It is, therefore, "abnormal".
It seems to be a general consensus that homosexuals are homosexuals because they are born that way not because they rationally decided to lead that lifestyle. So, I don't think rational plays a role here. We are all animals when it comes to sex.
And as I've stated before, homosexuality in animals other than humans is well documented and does occur.
Not only do I know that, I actually saw one male puppy servicing another in a one of those puppy store windows. I swear!
But it doesn't take from the fact that it is not a "norm" but an exeption to it.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man.
possibly for the rest of the animal kingdom, but humans are separated somewhat from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to be rational (or irrational)
THat is indeed true, however I am not sure what this argument has to do with our discussion on "norm" in sexual attraction. Our sexuality has nothing to do with rational. It is instinct!
Men are attracted to women and visa versa because their bodies are designed that way in order to procreate. It is an instinct that nature gave us in order for our species to survive. If we are attracted to a person of the same sex, our instincts are going against nature because obviously that union can not produce offsprings. It is, therefore, "abnormal".
It seems to be a general consensus that homosexuals are homosexuals because they are born that way not because they rationally decided to lead that lifestyle. So, I don't think rational plays a role here. We are all animals when it comes to sex.
And as I've stated before, homosexuality in animals other than humans is well documented and does occur.
Not only do I know that, I actually saw one male puppy servicing another in a one of those puppy store windows. I swear!
But it doesn't take from the fact that it is not a "norm" but an exeption to it.
I never said it was the "norm" (however we define that term). I am saying that it DOES occur in nature. Not all exceptions to the norm are wrong or horrible.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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I am all for it!!IMAGE
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The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man.
possibly for the rest of the animal kingdom, but humans are separated somewhat from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to be rational (or irrational)
THat is indeed true, however I am not sure what this argument has to do with our discussion on "norm" in sexual attraction. Our sexuality has nothing to do with rational. It is instinct!
Men are attracted to women and visa versa because their bodies are designed that way in order to procreate. It is an instinct that nature gave us in order for our species to survive. If we are attracted to a person of the same sex, our instincts are going against nature because obviously that union can not produce offsprings. It is, therefore, "abnormal".
It seems to be a general consensus that homosexuals are homosexuals because they are born that way not because they rationally decided to lead that lifestyle. So, I don't think rational plays a role here. We are all animals when it comes to sex.
And as I've stated before, homosexuality in animals other than humans is well documented and does occur.
Not only do I know that, I actually saw one male puppy servicing another in a one of those puppy store windows. I swear!
But it doesn't take from the fact that it is not a "norm" but an exeption to it.
I never said it was the "norm" (however we define that term). I am saying that it DOES occur in nature. Not all exceptions to the norm are wrong or horrible.
And I never said that they were. My original post was a reply to Bxgell post about what "normal" marriage is. You are probably only seeing little bits and pieces of the orginal statemens...
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
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I am strongly AGAINST gay marriages. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman that protects and benefits their offsprings. It has nothing to do with gay love etc. It will never change in my mind!
I am however, very much FOR a legalized union between gay couples that allows them to be covered under their SO's insurance and inherit property.
Isn't it all semantics? Why not just say "heterosexual marriage" and "homosexual marriage"?
I mean, really the word "marriage" is self created. Sure, 200 years ago the "definition" meant between a man and a woman, but 200 years ago "voting citizen" also meant white man. The words we create as a society take on different meanings as we evolve, as they should. The fact is, what it all boils down to, no matter what the word is, what it entails or means, the end result should be that ALL people in this country, no matter what sex, race, religion, national origin AND sexual orientation, should entitled to the same benefits and rights as every OTHER person.
I just spent so much time writing a novel....and i wasn't signed in....UUUGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
I agree with Bxgell 100% on everything she has posted in regards to this topic.
Our country is very hypocritical…politicians claim they are against gay marriage because god and the bible states that marriage is between a man and a woman and the purpose is to procreate…..yet….these same politicians…..have no problem committing adultery….spending thousands on prostitutes and spending billions and billions of dollars on a war that has killed thousands of innocent people, that has put our country more at risk for terrorist, has divided our country from the rest of the world….and that has weakened our economy….yet “god” doesn’t seem to be a part of any of these decisions and actions….i am sure that “god” does not approve.
one of the great things about the US and why people come to live here is because our country is a conglomerate of different religions, different races, different cultures and lifestyles….so why is sexual preference an issue?? Why does a criminal have the right to marry…..but not same sex couples that contribute to society in a positive way?
This country has serious issues and yet….our government feels the need to waste time on a topic that to me seems like an non issue. Every law abiding, tax paying us citizen should have the right to marry whomever they choose in their pursuit of happiness, which is our inalienable right. Who are we to judge? Who are we to say how people should live their lives? As long as they are not hurting anyone or breaking any laws….who the F cares?!? I live my life they way I intend do….and how I live my life affects NO ONE other than myself, my husband, family and friends.
Personally….i didn’t marry my husband to procreate…..yes…I do want to have kids…but this is not the reason I got married….i got married because I love my husband and I want to spend the rest of my life with him. But if we do have kids….there is a possibility that he or she may be gay…and I would want them to be able to live happily and have the same rights that everyone in this country has and would not want them to be treated differently.
Sorry I can go on and on ….Just venting!
Don’t mean to offend anyone….
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Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by WhatNow
I am strongly AGAINST gay marriages. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman that protects and benefits their offsprings. It has nothing to do with gay love etc. It will never change in my mind!
I am however, very much FOR a legalized union between gay couples that allows them to be covered under their SO's insurance and inherit property.
Isn't it all semantics? Why not just say "heterosexual marriage" and "homosexual marriage"?
I mean, really the word "marriage" is self created. Sure, 200 years ago the "definition" meant between a man and a woman, but 200 years ago "voting citizen" also meant white man. The words we create as a society take on different meanings as we evolve, as they should. The fact is, what it all boils down to, no matter what the word is, what it entails or means, the end result should be that ALL people in this country, no matter what sex, race, religion, national origin AND sexual orientation, should entitled to the same benefits and rights as every OTHER person.
I just spent so much time writing a novel....and i wasn't signed in....UUUGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
I agree with Bxgell 100% on everything she has posted in regards to this topic.
Our country is very hypocritical…politicians claim they are against gay marriage because god and the bible states that marriage is between a man and a woman and the purpose is to procreate…..yet….these same politicians…..have no problem committing adultery….spending thousands on prostitutes and spending billions and billions of dollars on a war that has killed thousands of innocent people, that has put our country more at risk for terrorist, has divided our country from the rest of the world….and that has weakened our economy….yet “god” doesn’t seem to be a part of any of these decisions and actions….i am sure that “god” does not approve.
one of the great things about the US and why people come to live here is because our country is a conglomerate of different religions, different races, different cultures and lifestyles….so why is sexual preference an issue?? Why does a criminal have the right to marry…..but not same sex couples that contribute to society in a positive way?
This country has serious issues and yet….our government feels the need to waste time on a topic that to me seems like an non issue. Every law abiding, tax paying us citizen should have the right to marry whomever they choose in their pursuit of happiness, which is our inalienable right. Who are we to judge? Who are we to say how people should live their lives? As long as they are not hurting anyone or breaking any laws….who the F cares?!? I live my life they way I intend do….and how I live my life affects NO ONE other than myself, my husband, family and friends.
Personally….i didn’t marry my husband to procreate…..yes…I do want to have kids…but this is not the reason I got married….i got married because I love my husband and I want to spend the rest of my life with him. But if we do have kids….there is a possibility that he or she may be gay…and I would want them to be able to live happily and have the same rights that everyone in this country has and would not want them to be treated differently.
Sorry I can go on and on ….Just venting!
Don’t mean to offend anyone….
Well, I am not the government. I still believe a normal marriage is between a man and a woman. Does that make me an hypocric? Why? Because I don't agree with you?
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| Posted 6/11/08 4:30 PM |
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DaniF18
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Daniella
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
No not all all....just stating my opinion! 
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| Posted 6/11/08 4:35 PM |
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SweetTooth
I'm a tired mommy!
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Lauren
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Re: What are your thoughts on Gay Marriage??
Posted by Kara
Posted by WhatNow
Posted by Erica
Posted by WhatNow
The main reason for "love" in a scientific sense is procreation. Homosexual relationships are "unnatural" simply because, by nature, there is absolutely no point for that kind of union. It is "abnormal" for man to be sexually attracted to another man.
possibly for the rest of the animal kingdom, but humans are separated somewhat from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to be rational (or irrational)
THat is indeed true, however I am not sure what this argument has to do with our discussion on "norm" in sexual attraction. Our sexuality has nothing to do with rational. It is instinct!
Men are attracted to women and visa versa because their bodies are designed that way in order to procreate. It is an instinct that nature gave us in order for our species to survive. If we are attracted to a person of the same sex, our instincts are going against nature because obviously that union can not produce offsprings. It is, therefore, "abnormal".
It seems to be a general consensus that homosexuals are homosexuals because they are born that way not because they rationally decided to lead that lifestyle. So, I don't think rational plays a role here. We are all animals when it comes to sex.
And as I've stated before, homosexuality in animals other than humans is well documented and does occur.
If we go by the "animal" and "nature" arguement, well then, marriage shouldn't exist at all. There are no other animals that practice monogamy like humans. Some animals will stay with the same partner for the mating season and to bring up that year's offspring (like penguins) but the next year they find a new partner.
So marriage is totally unnatural in the animal kingdom, and if we are animals and should follow the same rules as the rest of animals then adultery and polygamy should be accepted at "normal."
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