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timanda
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by eddiesmommy
yes but you are citing cases where the child is OBVIOUSLY acting out and inappropriately. I was addressing situations where a child is screaming on line at the supermarket, or likewise situations that have been mentiond. In no WAY did I say it was OK to run around like a lunatic, slamming into people, parents not apologizing.
Yes I did, because it happens more and more. So if you're getting the feeling that the world is a little more intolerant, I think its because more and more we are being bombarded with unruly children whose parents think its fine and that WE should find a way to deal with it.
Trust me, I can tell the difference between a parent who is mortified but can't really get their child under control despite their effort, and a parent who can't seem to hear the screaming and doesn't care one way or another if their child is being disruptive because, the fact is, that kid is going to be disrupting THEM either way, and they just don't care about the rest of us.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by timanda
Posted by eddiesmommy
yes but you are citing cases where the child is OBVIOUSLY acting out and inappropriately. I was addressing situations where a child is screaming on line at the supermarket, or likewise situations that have been mentiond. In no WAY did I say it was OK to run around like a lunatic, slamming into people, parents not apologizing.
Yes I did, because it happens more and more. So if you're getting the feeling that the world is a little more intolerant, I think its because more and more we are being bombarded with unruly children whose parents think its fine and that WE should find a way to deal with it.
Trust me, I can tell the difference between a parent who is mortified but can't really get their child under control despite their effort, and a parent who can't seem to hear the screaming and doesn't care one way or another if their child is being disruptive because, the fact is, that kid is going to be disrupting THEM either way, and they just don't care about the rest of us.
I didnt say you couldnt, I was specifically addressing those who are just mortified, but yet are being called out bc their kid is yelling in the supermarket.
I said NOTHING about people who clearly dont discipline their children, so Im not sure what you are arguing with me here for.
Dont presume to know how I feel or why I feel the way I do. I getting the feeling the world is a little more intolerant bc it is.....bc Ive read it on here...ie she has a big stroller near me, there was a kid screaming in the supermarket.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by Ophelia
do I think the world is changing? no
b/c I travel all over the world and people in other countries EMBRACE children. fancy restaurants, shows, being outside etc.
the flip side is...the kids know how to behave in this situation.
I don't like to deal with poorly behaved children, b/c I am just not accustomed to it in my home/life. there was no democracy, no talk back, no debate. EVER. there was no "kids will be kids" when the children were given the opportunity to be privy to the adult world.
we went to my dads jazz concerts and everything. we didn't run around the theatre or club. we sat there. for HOURS. and listening to JAZZ
I think as parents try out newer and different (and at times more lenient) parenting styles, and children are given more freedom to behave in ways that some may not be accustomed to..people are growing intolerant of that...at least I am
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Honestly, I don't think the people are getting less tolerant, I think it's the kids that are getting more and more unruly and parents who are taking less and less responsibility for their children's actions.
I will never forget the story with the little girl who threw a hissy fit in the aisle of a plane and the whole family had to be de-boarded because the parents weren't able to put her into the seat and buckle her properly. I mean, are you kidding me?? You scoop her up, you stick her in the seat, you buckle her in, you explain to her that we DON'T act this way-end of story! The littel girl was acting that way because she knew she could get away with it and i am sure does every single day of her life... That's the kind of parenting that creates unruly children.
Of course, there are always those people who are just crabby all the time, and people who just don't like kids. I think the whole "she put the stroller too close to the other woman" thing was more along those two lines rather than just being intolerant, but that's just my opinion.
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eroxgirl
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
I don't think the world is becoming child intolerant AT ALL.
I think there will always be people who at children making noise. My mother is most certainly one of them - she's criticized most people's parenting from our own family, to strangers, to friends, etc. Needless to say, I was raised VERRRRRY strictly. Seen and not heard and heaven help me if I ever embarrassed her in public...but I come from a family where children are seen and not heard and if you don't smack your kid when they step out of line, then you're letting them walk all over you. This is not the way most people parent today.
My DD will not likely ever be as well behaved as I was - she's got way more spunk than I've ever had and I don't want to stifle her. I have already received my share of from strangers when she starts yelling (just tell her NO and it starts, so she yells a lot because she's a daredevil and I refuse to let her kill herself!). But I also find that when I'm apologizing for the crazy meltdowns in the middle of a public place, I also get a lot of people telling me kids will be kids, she's small, etc. It's surprising to me because in my own family I get OMG can't you control her???
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timanda
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
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Posted by eddiesmommy
yes but you are citing cases where the child is OBVIOUSLY acting out and inappropriately. I was addressing situations where a child is screaming on line at the supermarket, or likewise situations that have been mentiond. In no WAY did I say it was OK to run around like a lunatic, slamming into people, parents not apologizing.
Yes I did, because it happens more and more. So if you're getting the feeling that the world is a little more intolerant, I think its because more and more we are being bombarded with unruly children whose parents think its fine and that WE should find a way to deal with it.
Trust me, I can tell the difference between a parent who is mortified but can't really get their child under control despite their effort, and a parent who can't seem to hear the screaming and doesn't care one way or another if their child is being disruptive because, the fact is, that kid is going to be disrupting THEM either way, and they just don't care about the rest of us.
I didnt say you couldnt, I was specifically addressing those who are just mortified, but yet are being called out bc their kid is yelling in the supermarket.
I said NOTHING about people who clearly dont discipline their children, so Im not sure what you are arguing with me here for.
Dont presume to know how I feel or why I feel the way I do. I getting the feeling the world is a little more intolerant bc it is.....bc Ive read it on here...ie she has a big stroller near me, there was a kid screaming in the supermarket.
I hardly see any "argument". In fact, I agree with you and am sympathetic to parents who were trying to keep their kids under control.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
I do not think the world is less tolerant. I do think there have been and will always be people who just don't like children or cannot be patient with them. And why shouldn't they get annoyed at someone else's children? I do not think all restaurants should cater to families, all weddings should include children, etc. As a parent, I have been surprised at the number of people who are kind, helpful, or totally understand how difficult it can be to be a parent at times.
Today at the grocery store DS started to cry and shout because I told him we weren't going to buy a toy. There really wasn't much to do about it IMO other than try to distract him, and I was coming up with zilch until a woman passing by said something nice to him. It worked, and when I thanked her she said, "Oh I remember that age well. But you're right you can't buy something for them everytime you go out." The previous week something similar happened and some guy rolled his eyes and shook his head. I'm sure he thinks I'm not keeping him in line, but honestly, I don't care. He's not hurting anyone, and he's expressing disappointment. My parents would never have let me express my feelings in this way, but I don't mind if he does, as long as he isn't violent or unruly.
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ChrisDee
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
I just think people just have something to say about EVERYTHING! And specifically negative things.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
I get annoyed when ADULTS are talking loudly on their cellphones at a nice restaurant, when ADULTS are yelling at each other in public places, when ADULTS are having a hissy fit because something isn't the way they want it, when ADULTS get waaaayyyy to drunk at wedding receptions and ruin it for everyone else.... It's not just kids that are disruptive...
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by GoldenRod
I get annoyed when ADULTS are talking loudly on their cellphones at a nice restaurant, when ADULTS are yelling at each other in public places, when ADULTS are having a hissy fit because something isn't the way they want it, when ADULTS get waaaayyyy to drunk at wedding receptions and ruin it for everyone else.... It's not just kids that are disruptive...
totally agree except for the drunk wedding part. I think that makes the wedding!
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by GoldenRod
I get annoyed when ADULTS are talking loudly on their cellphones at a nice restaurant, when ADULTS are yelling at each other in public places, when ADULTS are having a hissy fit because something isn't the way they want it, when ADULTS get waaaayyyy to drunk at wedding receptions and ruin it for everyone else.... It's not just kids that are disruptive...
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by GoldenRod
I get annoyed when ADULTS are talking loudly on their cellphones at a nice restaurant, when ADULTS are yelling at each other in public places, when ADULTS are having a hissy fit because something isn't the way they want it, when ADULTS get waaaayyyy to drunk at wedding receptions and ruin it for everyone else.... It's not just kids that are disruptive...
We were at the movies last weekend, and there were two ladies sitting behind us that thought it was a good time for them to talk through the movie.
I turned around and asked them if they were going to talk through the entire movie, to please let us know so we could move and enjoy our night out.
*I* was called rude....
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by cjik
I do not think the world is less tolerant. I do think there have been and will always be people who just don't like children or cannot be patient with them. And why shouldn't they get annoyed at someone else's children? I do not think all restaurants should cater to families, all weddings should include children, etc. As a parent, I have been surprised at the number of people who are kind, helpful, or totally understand how difficult it can be to be a parent at times.
Today at the grocery store DS started to cry and shout because I told him we weren't going to buy a toy. There really wasn't much to do about it IMO other than try to distract him, and I was coming up with zilch until a woman passing by said something nice to him. It worked, and when I thanked her she said, "Oh I remember that age well. But you're right you can't buy something for them everytime you go out." The previous week something similar happened and some guy rolled his eyes and shook his head. I'm sure he thinks I'm not keeping him in line, but honestly, I don't care. He's not hurting anyone, and he's expressing disappointment. My parents would never have let me express my feelings in this way, but I don't mind if he does, as long as he isn't violent or unruly.
I think it's interesting and a perfect example of different parenting styles how this poster says her son is experiencing disappointment and 'expressing his feelings' about it - SHE is ok w/ his behavior
I don't think it's KIDS in general people are about, it think it's the parents and differing opinions re: how to 'deal with' your kid's behavior in a certain situation -
What this poster finds acceptable as her child expressing his feelings, I would find completely unacceptable behavior - IMO my son isn't 'expressing his feelings' he's throwing a tantrum b/c he didn't get his way and by MY parenting style, that is not an acceptable way to express his disappointment - KWIM ?
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by cjik
I do not think the world is less tolerant. I do think there have been and will always be people who just don't like children or cannot be patient with them. And why shouldn't they get annoyed at someone else's children? I do not think all restaurants should cater to families, all weddings should include children, etc. As a parent, I have been surprised at the number of people who are kind, helpful, or totally understand how difficult it can be to be a parent at times.
Today at the grocery store DS started to cry and shout because I told him we weren't going to buy a toy. There really wasn't much to do about it IMO other than try to distract him, and I was coming up with zilch until a woman passing by said something nice to him. It worked, and when I thanked her she said, "Oh I remember that age well. But you're right you can't buy something for them everytime you go out." The previous week something similar happened and some guy rolled his eyes and shook his head. I'm sure he thinks I'm not keeping him in line, but honestly, I don't care. He's not hurting anyone, and he's expressing disappointment. My parents would never have let me express my feelings in this way, but I don't mind if he does, as long as he isn't violent or unruly.
I think it's interesting and a perfect example of different parenting styles how this poster says her son is experiencing disappointment and 'expressing his feelings' about it - SHE is ok w/ his behavior
I don't think it's KIDS in general people are about, it think it's the parents and differing opinions re: how to 'deal with' your kid's behavior in a certain situation -
What this poster finds acceptable as her child expressing his feelings, I would find completely unacceptable behavior - IMO my son isn't 'expressing his feelings' he's throwing a tantrum b/c he didn't get his way and by MY parenting style, that is not an acceptable way to express his disappointment - KWIM ?
Yeah, I do. As I said, my parents did not allow this type of behavior, so I know exactly what you mean.
Frankly, I like picking my battles. Maybe that makes me a wimp in the eyes of some and my child is seen as unruly, but I can't spend my time screaming at him because he is a 2-year old crying in a grocery store because he can't get what he wants. If we were in church or a restaurant, that would be different, then he would have to behave. But how many adults do I hear arguing in that place or yelling on their cell phones?
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
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Posted by cjik
I do not think the world is less tolerant. I do think there have been and will always be people who just don't like children or cannot be patient with them. And why shouldn't they get annoyed at someone else's children? I do not think all restaurants should cater to families, all weddings should include children, etc. As a parent, I have been surprised at the number of people who are kind, helpful, or totally understand how difficult it can be to be a parent at times.
Today at the grocery store DS started to cry and shout because I told him we weren't going to buy a toy. There really wasn't much to do about it IMO other than try to distract him, and I was coming up with zilch until a woman passing by said something nice to him. It worked, and when I thanked her she said, "Oh I remember that age well. But you're right you can't buy something for them everytime you go out." The previous week something similar happened and some guy rolled his eyes and shook his head. I'm sure he thinks I'm not keeping him in line, but honestly, I don't care. He's not hurting anyone, and he's expressing disappointment. My parents would never have let me express my feelings in this way, but I don't mind if he does, as long as he isn't violent or unruly.
I think it's interesting and a perfect example of different parenting styles how this poster says her son is experiencing disappointment and 'expressing his feelings' about it - SHE is ok w/ his behavior
I don't think it's KIDS in general people are about, it think it's the parents and differing opinions re: how to 'deal with' your kid's behavior in a certain situation -
What this poster finds acceptable as her child expressing his feelings, I would find completely unacceptable behavior - IMO my son isn't 'expressing his feelings' he's throwing a tantrum b/c he didn't get his way and by MY parenting style, that is not an acceptable way to express his disappointment - KWIM ?
Yeah, I do. As I said, my parents did not allow this type of behavior, so I know exactly what you mean.
Frankly, I like picking my battles. Maybe that makes me a wimp in the eyes of some and my child is seen as unruly, but I can't spend my time screaming at him because he is a 2-year old crying in a grocery store because he can't get what he wants. If we were in church or a restaurant, that would be different, then he would have to behave. But how many adults do I hear arguing in that place or yelling on their cell phones?
I agree w/ you re: choosing your battles - and I'm not saying "I'm Right and She's Wrong" - I'm just pointing out that what some parents find acceptable, others don't - and I think that is where we find what seems to be intolerance ot KIDS in general, it's more about thinking "Why is she browbeating that kid?" or "I can't believe they're letting him get away w/ that" ....... I'm sure if you saw me dealing w/ my kid in the same situation, you would be thinking to yourself "oh it's so not worth the battle, just leave him alone" KWIM?
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by smdl
It think it's a general feeling of selfcenterness.
I don't think it's specific to children actually.
It's ANYTHING that annoy someone.
It's the red light and cannot wait because it would require waiting 3 minutes for another green light.
It's the line that is too long. The person who cuts in line while on her cellphone when the cashier says next and YOU were next but she can't wait.
It's driving in a turn only lane to cut in front of you at the end because they could not wait in the 1 lane road going straight.
It's the person at a stop sign who decides to pull in front of you at 15 mph because they are tired of waiting.
It's me me me!!!!!
The sense of entitlement has become such a huge issue.
But yes, then you will be told that YOU have a sense of entitlement because you use a stroller in a subway. That your 14 months old child should learn to walk. Geez... watch out if your kid is not walking by then!
ITA- I love the people who get ****** when we are at a "family Friendly" restaurant with our kids at 5:30, 6pm and ask to move But these are the same people who irritate me because they use their check book at the supermarket and hold up the line! Its all a matter of perspective.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by CkGm
Posted by smdl
It think it's a general feeling of selfcenterness.
I don't think it's specific to children actually.
It's ANYTHING that annoy someone.
It's the red light and cannot wait because it would require waiting 3 minutes for another green light.
It's the line that is too long. The person who cuts in line while on her cellphone when the cashier says next and YOU were next but she can't wait.
It's driving in a turn only lane to cut in front of you at the end because they could not wait in the 1 lane road going straight.
It's the person at a stop sign who decides to pull in front of you at 15 mph because they are tired of waiting.
It's me me me!!!!!
The sense of entitlement has become such a huge issue.
But yes, then you will be told that YOU have a sense of entitlement because you use a stroller in a subway. That your 14 months old child should learn to walk. Geez... watch out if your kid is not walking by then!
ITA- I love the people who get ****** when we are at a "family Friendly" restaurant with our kids at 5:30, 6pm and ask to move But these are the same people who irritate me because they use their check book at the supermarket and hold up the line! Its all a matter of perspective.
in college, I used to be a hostess at friendlys and people would come in ALL the time and ask to be seated away from children....I was like "youre kiddding me, right?" Youve come to the wrong place then.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
i love friendly's! But so true i would never walk in there and get annoyed about kids running around. Dh might roll his eyes but i tell him to get over it, its freaking friendly's and then he shoves food in his mouth and is content.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
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Posted by cjik
I do not think the world is less tolerant. I do think there have been and will always be people who just don't like children or cannot be patient with them. And why shouldn't they get annoyed at someone else's children? I do not think all restaurants should cater to families, all weddings should include children, etc. As a parent, I have been surprised at the number of people who are kind, helpful, or totally understand how difficult it can be to be a parent at times.
Today at the grocery store DS started to cry and shout because I told him we weren't going to buy a toy. There really wasn't much to do about it IMO other than try to distract him, and I was coming up with zilch until a woman passing by said something nice to him. It worked, and when I thanked her she said, "Oh I remember that age well. But you're right you can't buy something for them everytime you go out." The previous week something similar happened and some guy rolled his eyes and shook his head. I'm sure he thinks I'm not keeping him in line, but honestly, I don't care. He's not hurting anyone, and he's expressing disappointment. My parents would never have let me express my feelings in this way, but I don't mind if he does, as long as he isn't violent or unruly.
I think it's interesting and a perfect example of different parenting styles how this poster says her son is experiencing disappointment and 'expressing his feelings' about it - SHE is ok w/ his behavior
I don't think it's KIDS in general people are about, it think it's the parents and differing opinions re: how to 'deal with' your kid's behavior in a certain situation -
What this poster finds acceptable as her child expressing his feelings, I would find completely unacceptable behavior - IMO my son isn't 'expressing his feelings' he's throwing a tantrum b/c he didn't get his way and by MY parenting style, that is not an acceptable way to express his disappointment - KWIM ?
Yeah, I do. As I said, my parents did not allow this type of behavior, so I know exactly what you mean.
Frankly, I like picking my battles. Maybe that makes me a wimp in the eyes of some and my child is seen as unruly, but I can't spend my time screaming at him because he is a 2-year old crying in a grocery store because he can't get what he wants. If we were in church or a restaurant, that would be different, then he would have to behave. But how many adults do I hear arguing in that place or yelling on their cell phones?
I agree w/ you re: choosing your battles - and I'm not saying "I'm Right and She's Wrong" - I'm just pointing out that what some parents find acceptable, others don't - and I think that is where we find what seems to be intolerance ot KIDS in general, it's more about thinking "Why is she browbeating that kid?" or "I can't believe they're letting him get away w/ that" ....... I'm sure if you saw me dealing w/ my kid in the same situation, you would be thinking to yourself "oh it's so not worth the battle, just leave him alone" KWIM?
I know I thought differently about parents ignoring their tantrums once my children were in that 15 month - 2.5 years stage. After 2.5 - 3 years, I'd say you can pick those battles easier.
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BaroqueMama
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Wow, I've never once felt like this at all. I feel terrible that so many people have! Maybe I just don't care what anyone else thinks, so I haven't noticed it? But honestly, I don't get this feeling at all, anywhere I go, ever.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
No I dont think the world is less child intolerant but i did have a recent situation at walmart.
I was there with my twins. they were in their stroller quietly. A very elderly woman was blocking the entire aisle with her cart. I said really softly ( which is not my nature but she was old and i didn't want to startle her) Excuse me can you please move we cant get by,. She just looked at me blankly and didnt move. so i said it again a bit louder. she now glared at me and said your carriage is a menace. its too big you and your children should stay at home! I was shocked but not too shocked to yell at her. seriously i was at walmart my children werent making a sound ( not that it would be ok for her to act this way if they were. ) and she told me i had no right to leave the house!.
I told her she was a cranky old lady who should stay home herself.
but honestly ppl usually are so kind and helpful to me. once i saw an elderly lady trying to run after me pleading for me to stop so she can take a look at the children!. i did and she was so happy! then and i thikn this is weird-- i sent a pic of the children to my inlaws. my FIL brough it to a neighbors home to show her. she asked if she could keep it. she said she had so little joy in her life and this photo made her so happy. so i guess thats nice but she doest know me or my kids so that was weird. my MIL wanted to frame the pic so she was pretty upset with her dh!
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by prncsslehcar
Wow, I've never once felt like this at all. I feel terrible that so many people have! Maybe I just don't care what anyone else thinks, so I haven't noticed it? But honestly, I don't get this feeling at all, anywhere I go, ever.
I feel the same way, I feel bad that everyone seems to have experienced that.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
I feel that way sometimes. We've gotten funny looks in the supermarket because the kids were laughing loudly. Even just walking down the aisle people will at us, and that is with them sitting nicely in the cart and just talking to each other!
We have gotten smiles and a few people compliment us on their behavior, but overall we just get nasty looks.
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by greeneyes361708
I feel that way sometimes. We've gotten funny looks in the supermarket because the kids were laughing loudly. Even just walking down the aisle people will at us, and that is with them sitting nicely in the cart and just talking to each other!
We have gotten smiles and a few people compliment us on their behavior, but overall we just get nasty looks.
It really is a shame that people with well behaved children are treated so poorly. Kids are kids, not mini-adults and people need to be more tolerant and learn the difference between a kid acting like a kid and a kid misbehaving.
For example, I was a Pixar movie and there was a little boy who talked through the WHOLE movie but he was so excited and telling his dad Look at that Dad and asking questions but we were at a KIDS movie so I thought it was adorable. He was just being a kid.
At ANOTHER kids movie though, a mother came in with her mom and her 3 kids, one of whom was a baby. Well the baby started crying (as babies do - fine) but instead of leaving her other 2 kids with their grandma to leave and console the baby, she decided to pick the WHOLE family to move down to the lower section so she could change the baby while her other 2 kids were fighting and yelling at each other. THAT was unacceptable and just inconsiderate and rude. If she was by herself, maybe I'd cut her some slack because she's just trying to have an afternoon out with her kids but she had another adult with her.
It's the same thing at Friendlys - kids laughing loud and making funny faces - sure! Kids throwing food and screaming (and I've seen it happen) - not okay.
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Posted 1/21/10 9:31 PM |
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Re: Do you feel that the world is becoming child intolerant? (LONG)
Posted by Ophelia
do I think the world is changing? no
b/c I travel all over the world and people in other countries EMBRACE children. fancy restaurants, shows, being outside etc.
the flip side is...the kids know how to behave in this situation.
I don't like to deal with poorly behaved children, b/c I am just not accustomed to it in my home/life. there was no democracy, no talk back, no debate. EVER. there was no "kids will be kids" when the children were given the opportunity to be privy to the adult world.
we went to my dads jazz concerts and everything. we didn't run around the theatre or club. we sat there. for HOURS. and listening to JAZZ
I think as parents try out newer and different (and at times more lenient) parenting styles, and children are given more freedom to behave in ways that some may not be accustomed to..people are growing intolerant of that...at least I am ITA
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Posted 1/21/10 9:34 PM |
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