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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Just for the record, SSI is VERY different then public assistance and what it is meant to cover. SSI for an adult basically is the replacement of income that is lost because someone is disabled. Public assistance is means for families/individuals to get their basic needs met through various problems like housing assistance, food stamps, etc.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
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Wow, that's sort of harsh...and not necessarily true.
I grew up on welfare, food stamps and public assistance. We were the family that stood on line for the free cheese.
My mother got divorced from my father when we were all little, had little to no education and went on welfare.
Yet NOT ONE of us is on welfare or receiving public assistance. Five children work and pay their taxes.... we are all self sufficient.
To the point that when my brother almost died of an enlarged aorta, he wasn't eligible for disability and we all chipped in to pay his bills and help him and his wife survive.
ETA: Because of her education and upbringing, my mother had two more children after us...
Blows that theory to h*ll....doesn't it?
Nope it actually doesn't. Your mom had to go on public assistance because she fell on hard times and like I said before, I totally get that....and my own sister had that happen to her.
What I am talking about are people who are ALREADY ON ASSISTANCE their whole lives.....can't hold down a job cause a)they just don't want to and b)they were never TAUGHT that you should work to earn what you want. They grow up seeing their moms and dads using the system and MILKING the sh*t out of it, and then when they are getting older they start having kids young....and therefore the VISCIOUS CYCLE continues.
I NEVER said that the entire system is flawed--please re-read what I said. What I was speaking of were those who DO abuse the system and continue to use the "free money" because they can. And I'll say it again, if you can't or won't work to provide for yourself and are anxiously awaiting the 1st of the month for your govt check (like members of my own family and ILs do) then you should not be producing more babies that the taxpayers are paying for. In the instance of your family, that is clearly not the case. Sadly for others, they never leave the system and grow up to be responsible adults and holding their own.
I agree. I have seen this first hand.
My old assistant who used to work for me. Five years ago she had her baby. Here's the background
She was a partyer. She was seeing some guy, they used to do coke together. She wanted to have a child and was going to stop at nothing to have one. She continued to party, they child was conceived while she and her daily hookup were both under the influence of coke. She had the baby, he left her as soon as he found out she was pregnant. Fast forward to two years ago when I first met her. She seemed normal, a little high strung for me. But we got along. I found out from some of her co-workers that she asks to "borrow" money for them. I felt bad for her. So once she asked me to borrow money from her. At first I thought I'm her boss, I dont' know if I should give it to her. But I did because I thought of the baby. Then as I got to know her better. She buys a case of beer at the end of the day, she plays the scratch offs, she puts money into work pools. She smokes pack after pack. Meanwhile, she is sending the baby to th ebaby sitters house with one meal and one drink for the WHOLE day. The baby is malnutrished. She came to me asking me to help her with her credit card debt. I told her that I would advise her how to consolidate her debt. I gave her some numbers to call. I'm thinking great she wants to do this. She did nothing. The baby started to have problems like ticking so she was all upset, and she I QuOTE " I didn't know it was going to be this hard" I said Cathy are you kidding me. You knew that he wasn't going to help raise this child with you. You knew you were going to be a single parents. You knew you conceived him while you were doing a hard substance and you didn't think there were going to be any problems. She doesn't think that the chemicals the two of them were using can affect her baby and now nuerologically. I have thought many times calling CPS on her. She feeds him twinkies for dinner. I have told her to go out and find a better paying job and she won't. So people like this NO should NOT have children!
This is just one story and certainly not an example of the norm. Plus, you don't know the whole story and what got her there. If you really think about her and her situation, whether self created or not, do you really believe she is not in need of some type of help? It certainly sounds like she needs some help with parenting skills and money management. Just because you were taught these things does not mean that she was. Lots of people aren't knowledgable about money management hence the housing and credit crisis.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
I think alot of us struggle to pay our bills in this day and age. we have to work harder andlonger to make ends meet and this takes away from time i would like to spend with my family. and this makes me bitter when i do see people in the store with two kids pregnant with another and paying for there food with government money.
the system is flawed they put people on and make it impossible to get off. yes there are some people that are proud and work hard to get themselves off and then there are others who are just happy to sit by and collect money.
when i worked in the city one mom actually said she had to have another kid because her oldest ws graduating and she need the welfare money. and these kids are in school all day why can't she get a job! and these that were getting gov't money half the kids came in with no pencils or notebooks but had the most expensive sneakers on.
additionally my daughter had to bust her butt to get good grades to get a partial scholarship to college when others in the class are there on a free ride due to there circumstances. We are by know means rich where is our assistance???
and ssi disability is not only for adults children that are labeled 'disabled" and i'm not talking physically or mentally its just a so called learning diability they they getssi benefits for what the school povides everything they need.
okay so this post might be all over the road but there is alot of people out there taking advantage of the system.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by passerby
and ssi disability is not only for adults children that are labeled 'disabled" and i'm not talking physically or mentally its just a so called learning diability they they getssi benefits for what the school povides everything they need.
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My understanding and professional experience is that SSI is not just given to children with so called learning disabilities. It isn't easy to qualify and those children do have problems and issues and I would think that you would be thankful that your children don't have the type of disabilities that would qualify for SSI.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by passerby
and ssi disability is not only for adults children that are labeled 'disabled" and i'm not talking physically or mentally its just a so called learning diability they they getssi benefits for what the school povides everything they need.
okay so this post might be all over the road but there is alot of people out there taking advantage of the system.
First of all, a learning disability doesn't qualify a child for SSI. A diagnosis of something much more severe would be required. Children that qualify for SSI because of a disability are typically children that cannot be placed in say an aftercare program at school so their parents can work. Typically aftercare programs don't have the support staff to provide the attention children with special circumstances need. The money these families get for SSI can offset the cost of a private babysitter, summer camp for special needs children, etc.
I will tell you, the minute my son's previous aftercare staff had found out he was in a special education class in first grade, they were ready to get him out of the aftercare program. Had that have happened, where would I get the money to pay for private care when I was paying $10 a day for childcare at the school? I wouldn't have qualified for SSI, but my point is, parents of children with special needs have a hard time with things that are so basic for typical children.
Everything isn't always black and white like you think it is.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
I would have felt so bad for them
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
This situation sounds AWFUL! And to tell you the truth...I dont care if they are spending 100 bucks on carnival rides ....at least they are giving their children some happiness. Now if you told me the parents would be spending money on gambling, cigs, or drugs...thats a different story. I think people should stop paying attention to other peoples money. Those people were obviously struggling as are TONS of middle class families. I commend you for considering buying the diapers for the family bc I would have done the same exact thing! You should see the look on mommies faces when I am in the baby aisle with my dd and I hand them a huggies coupon or formula coupon...its the look like they have won a million dollars. There are many people out there in need and I think a little compassion goes along way.
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| Posted 8/19/08 9:52 AM |
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
I am so glad I missed this.
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| Posted 8/19/08 9:59 AM |
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hazeleyes33
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by MrsR
This thread makes me so sad and concerned about our society - and perceptions.
I think we forget sometimes that as humans we are all much more alike then we are different.
It seems that a lot of people (in society) look down upon the poor, or think they are better than them. We forget sometimes that we can BE those peole - easily. They are just like you - but with less money. They have the same stresses, feelings, dreams.
There is so much nitpicking about cell phones, cars, clothes - whatever....so many assumptions made on someone ELSEs observations - not even your own. Its so sad.
I think we need to see the good in people, open our hearts (and yes, sometimes our wallets) to help people - to relate to people and to know we are ALL the same people (yes, even those taking advantage of the system...its sad...but sometimes survival is primative!).
I am sure a lot of us would be a lot more empathetic if we went through hard times ourselves. We would know what it feels like to have to make hard decisions about which bills to pay and who to feed first.
Regardless as to what their situation was I have compassion for them and an open heart - I hope things work out for them and they or their child never goes hungry.
We are not speaking about "poor" people though who could use a little help. We are speaking of people who use the system and people to live. I have seen it over and over and it happens more than you think.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by PrincessP
This situation sounds AWFUL! And to tell you the truth...I dont care if they are spending 100 bucks on carnival rides ....at least they are giving their children some happiness. Now if you told me the parents would be spending money on gambling, cigs, or drugs...thats a different story. I think people should stop paying attention to other peoples money. Those people were obviously struggling as are TONS of middle class families. I commend you for considering buying the diapers for the family bc I would have done the same exact thing! You should see the look on mommies faces when I am in the baby aisle with my dd and I hand them a huggies coupon or formula coupon...its the look like they have won a million dollars. There are many people out there in need and I think a little compassion goes along way.
So $100 in Carnival rides over a decent winter coat is ok? I have seen it over and over with families.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
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Posted by PrincessP
This situation sounds AWFUL! And to tell you the truth...I dont care if they are spending 100 bucks on carnival rides ....at least they are giving their children some happiness. Now if you told me the parents would be spending money on gambling, cigs, or drugs...thats a different story. I think people should stop paying attention to other peoples money. Those people were obviously struggling as are TONS of middle class families. I commend you for considering buying the diapers for the family bc I would have done the same exact thing! You should see the look on mommies faces when I am in the baby aisle with my dd and I hand them a huggies coupon or formula coupon...its the look like they have won a million dollars. There are many people out there in need and I think a little compassion goes along way.
So $100 in Carnival rides over a decent winter coat is ok? I have seen it over and over with families.
are we living on the same planet? you've seen that "over & over"?
Its interesting that I live in a "lower income" area & I haven't seen anything like what you've described.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by PrincessP
This situation sounds AWFUL! And to tell you the truth...I dont care if they are spending 100 bucks on carnival rides ....at least they are giving their children some happiness. Now if you told me the parents would be spending money on gambling, cigs, or drugs...thats a different story. I think people should stop paying attention to other peoples money. Those people were obviously struggling as are TONS of middle class families. I commend you for considering buying the diapers for the family bc I would have done the same exact thing! You should see the look on mommies faces when I am in the baby aisle with my dd and I hand them a huggies coupon or formula coupon...its the look like they have won a million dollars. There are many people out there in need and I think a little compassion goes along way.
So $100 in Carnival rides over a decent winter coat is ok? I have seen it over and over with families.
You are kidding with me???
You see it over and over again in public??? I can tell ya I see it over and over again as a social worker but as a genral population...NO...I can not say that I see people going on carnival rides over feeding their children.
Also, when they are on carnival rides...they are wearing shirts that say "look at me I am poor"? How do you know who is poor at the carnival?
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
This topic has completely derailed-the topic of welfare and "abusing the system" has nothing to do with the situation described by the original poster.
It seems like some people want to make excuses for why they don't feel badly for the couple rather than just taking the situation in and digesting it without reading more into it. It's a couple with a child and another on the way trying to purchase egg noodles and they can't afford it. That makes me sad.
I have never been in that position in my life so I don't know how that makes them feel but I can only imagine it doesn't feel very good and us dumping more accusations on them instead of compassion wouldn't help.
To the OP-I would have been touched by what you saw as well and would have wanted to help.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
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Posted by PrincessP
This situation sounds AWFUL! And to tell you the truth...I dont care if they are spending 100 bucks on carnival rides ....at least they are giving their children some happiness. Now if you told me the parents would be spending money on gambling, cigs, or drugs...thats a different story. I think people should stop paying attention to other peoples money. Those people were obviously struggling as are TONS of middle class families. I commend you for considering buying the diapers for the family bc I would have done the same exact thing! You should see the look on mommies faces when I am in the baby aisle with my dd and I hand them a huggies coupon or formula coupon...its the look like they have won a million dollars. There are many people out there in need and I think a little compassion goes along way.
So $100 in Carnival rides over a decent winter coat is ok? I have seen it over and over with families.
are we living on the same planet? you've seen that "over & over"?
Its interesting that I live in a "lower income" area & I haven't seen anything like what you've described.
Well my dh's family is exactly like this. I also know a neighbor of mine that spend hundreds of dollars on Christmas decorations every single year BUT the kids teachers bought them winter coats because they said they could not afford them.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by PrincessP
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Posted by PrincessP
This situation sounds AWFUL! And to tell you the truth...I dont care if they are spending 100 bucks on carnival rides ....at least they are giving their children some happiness. Now if you told me the parents would be spending money on gambling, cigs, or drugs...thats a different story. I think people should stop paying attention to other peoples money. Those people were obviously struggling as are TONS of middle class families. I commend you for considering buying the diapers for the family bc I would have done the same exact thing! You should see the look on mommies faces when I am in the baby aisle with my dd and I hand them a huggies coupon or formula coupon...its the look like they have won a million dollars. There are many people out there in need and I think a little compassion goes along way.
So $100 in Carnival rides over a decent winter coat is ok? I have seen it over and over with families.
You are kidding with me???
You see it over and over again in public??? I can tell ya I see it over and over again as a social worker but as a genral population...NO...I can not say that I see people going on carnival rides over feeding their children.
Also, when they are on carnival rides...they are wearing shirts that say "look at me I am poor"? How do you know who is poor at the carnival?
I never said every child is "poor" but I know plenty of people who go to carnivals, my dh's family included who can not afford to, take their rent money, food money, etc. to do so.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by hazeleyes33
Well my dh's family is exactly like this. I also know a neighbor of mine that spend hundreds of dollars on Christmas decorations every single year BUT the kids teachers bought them winter coats because they said they could not afford them.
I respect that these experiences are real for you, but honestly I think it is an exception not the norm to know so many people that work the system. Its unfortunate that you've had this unique life experience but I don't think you should try to convince the rest of us that the human spirit of giving & charity is a waste of time.
I work extremely hard for my money too. If I can possibly be the one lucky thing that may happen in a person's day when they are down on their luck it thrills me. I know the good that put out in the unviverse comes back to bless me and my family ten fold. Remember the old saying about "giving is better than receiving"
I don't think its my job to decide whether or not someone is truly "worthy". If I see another human being in need I want to help, end of story.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
I don't think anyone is making excuses as to why they dont' feel bad for this couple. People have opions and they are just expressing them which is totally fine, that's what this board is for. No one knows this couple. All assumptions are being based off of what OP described she saw. The two biggest assumptions
1. They could be a couple that have hit hard times, and I can't speak for everyone but I would feel horrible for them and would offer to at least buy diapers and some baby food if there was any they were trying to purchase. 2. They could have been "that couple" that abuses the systems, and their gift card didn't work or it was a gift card picked up from the ground with the hopes of money being on it. And they buy aimless things instead of spending it on the baby
Know one knows, we are so accustomed to people not doing the right thing. For example on my way to the subway every single day Mon- Fri. I see the same homeless man sitting in the same exact spot with his little sign that says I am hungry. Guess what, I saw him today and for the first time LAUGHED outloud. Because before I left the house I saw this post. He had a CELLPHONE in his hand with whatever he was listening to on speakerphone and he was laughing. AMAZING.
So I dont' think anyone should get annoyed, mad or offended for any opionions that are posted for this particular topic.
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I just wanted to add, without reading this whole thread, that last year when I had Cailen, DH just found a new job after being laid off for a year, on and off....
We just got married, and lo and behold, I discover that I'm pregnant. 3 masters degrees, 32 years old, well educated - never knocked up before - total accident and surprise....
and in financial devastation!
no one would ever know by looking at us.
We went through many, many, many times where we had to put food back. Formula came first, plain and simple. and that formula came from people on here sending me the coupons, and me knowing which particular drugstores would let me combine them!!!
Someone on here sent me a friggen thermometer for Cailen from her hospital because he had fever and i had no money for one! I still can't believe how we survived that....
We are far from out of the woods financially, but I pray we never get down to that level ever again. And since we live paycheck to paycheck, it can happen at any time....
Between child support, and the price of gas, and now paying for Cailen's insurance, we still struggle everyday.
We don't abuse the system - hell, we will never even be IN the system because of our combined incomes!!!
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by hazeleyes33
I never said every child is "poor" but I know plenty of people who go to carnivals, my dh's family included who can not afford to, take their rent money, food money, etc. to do so.
i remember when your DH was looking for a new job a while ago & he took a job at a theater & was going to be a Mr Mom, you guys discussed it & made a choice that was good for your family. But you posted here that people( I guess your friensds & family) were making comments about your DHs job not being good enough or whatever.
Its REALLY easy to find $hitty things to say about other people's life choices, but its much harder to be supportive or walk in their shoes. IMO most people do the best they can with what they have available. Making accusations or judging is never really fair to anyone.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by KellyFG
Posted by hazeleyes33
I never said every child is "poor" but I know plenty of people who go to carnivals, my dh's family included who can not afford to, take their rent money, food money, etc. to do so.
i remember when your DH was looking for a new job a while ago & he took a job at a theater & was going to be a Mr Mom, you guys discussed it & made a choice that was good for your family. But you posted here that people( I guess your friensds & family) were making comments about your DHs job not being good enough or whatever.
Its REALLY easy to find $hitty things to say about other people's life choices, but its much harder to be supportive or walk in their shoes. IMO most people do the best they can with what they have available. Making accusations or judging is never really fair to anyone.
It is unfair to judge people but I have had my eyes opened more to the world by meeting people like this.
While I KNOW not everyone is like this, it should not be a surprise to anyone that there are plenty of people out there whose priorities ARE messed up. I unfortunately, have met many of those people :(
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by hazeleyes33
It is unfair to judge people but I have had my eyes opened more to the world by meeting people like this.
While I KNOW not everyone is like this, it should not be a surprise to anyone that there are plenty of people out there whose priorities ARE messed up. I unfortunately, have met many of those people :(
I agree.
I know that people are looking at my statements and other on this thread and think that I'm some heartless b*tch or something. But I've just been tainted by my experiences with my own family members and such and ILs who are the EXACT people that many of us are referring to. I really do think that the welfare/WIC system can be beneficial to people---my sister was a great success story. But unfortunately she's the only one that I know of personally who made it off the assistance and works for a living. To any of those who did this or who had parents who needed some help when they were growing up--and they used the help and it worked....that's really awesome. I sincerely  each and every one of you, because that is what its supposed to be about!!
For me, everyone I know personalyl who uses public assistance, does so because they don't want to work and feel like its silly to work and pay for your own things if the govt gives them aid. And again, I am not talking about the ENTIRE world--I'm just trying to explain that its what I have know and that's why I feel the way I do about it. Its not about going thru "rough times" for them and all the heart-wrenching scenarios that people are talking about.....its about the check.
DH's step mom since age 14 has had 9 children...NINE. She has NEVER bothered holding a job in her LIFE because well, she just doesn't think she has to. She got a doctor to say that she can't work due to "anxiety" and not only does she get welfare and WIC, she gets SSI -- since her "anxiety" makes it impossible for her to ever work. Yeah--she's got anxiety....when she doesn't get a hit off her crack pipe.  (And I'm not exaggerating - she really is a crackhead and a junkie)
If anyone on here can sincerely tell me that they think that its okay and that they would NOT JUDGE that she continued to pop out children from the age of 14, and that it was just "accidents" and she needs the help and we should all help her and keep her in the system like she's been for the past THREE DECADES...then you are a better person than me, and I tip my hat to you.
This is just ONE person I know--I can give you about 7 or 8 more examples. I'm sorry but if you saw it first hand like I do in those scenarios....its difficult to not be cynical.
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by hazeleyes33
It is unfair to judge people but I have had my eyes opened more to the world by meeting people like this.
While I KNOW not everyone is like this, it should not be a surprise to anyone that there are plenty of people out there whose priorities ARE messed up. I unfortunately, have met many of those people :(
I agree.
I know that people are looking at my statements and other on this thread and think that I'm some heartless b*tch or something. But I've just been tainted by my experiences with my own family members and such and ILs who are the EXACT people that many of us are referring to. I really do think that the welfare/WIC system can be beneficial to people---my sister was a great success story. But unfortunately she's the only one that I know of personally who made it off the assistance and works for a living. To any of those who did this or who had parents who needed some help when they were growing up--and they used the help and it worked....that's really awesome. I sincerely each and every one of you, because that is what its supposed to be about!!
For me, everyone I know personalyl who uses public assistance, does so because they don't want to work and feel like its silly to work and pay for your own things if the govt gives them aid. And again, I am not talking about the ENTIRE world--I'm just trying to explain that its what I have know and that's why I feel the way I do about it. Its not about going thru "rough times" for them and all the heart-wrenching scenarios that people are talking about.....its about the check.
DH's step mom since age 14 has had 9 children...NINE. She has NEVER bothered holding a job in her LIFE because well, she just doesn't think she has to. She got a doctor to say that she can't work due to "anxiety" and not only does she get welfare and WIC, she gets SSI -- since her "anxiety" makes it impossible for her to ever work. Yeah--she's got anxiety....when she doesn't get a hit off her crack pipe. (And I'm not exaggerating - she really is a crackhead and a junkie)
If anyone on here can sincerely tell me that they think that its okay and that they would NOT JUDGE that she continued to pop out children from the age of 14, and that it was just "accidents" and she needs the help and we should all help her and keep her in the system like she's been for the past THREE DECADES...then you are a better person than me, and I tip my hat to you.
This is just ONE person I know--I can give you about 7 or 8 more examples. I'm sorry but if you saw it first hand like I do in those scenarios....its difficult to not be cynical.
I am glad I am not the only one. I try and not judge people but it is hard when I have gone through knowing people who have taken advantage of me, others and the system. I think it has just made me more aware of things around me and that not everyone is like me.
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| Posted 8/19/08 1:51 PM |
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Theresa05
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
I have a ?
Isn't WIC for Mothers who can't get a job and can't get assiatance on a temp basis to provide milk and food for their child....
I love the people on WIC going on vacations, having parties and not going to work.
I am so happy I work 50 hrs and week and so does my husband to provide such an outlet for these people to take advantage of the system
I wish there was a hotline to report such people.. I would be reporting them in a heart beat..
These are the same ones who DONT Want to work but expect support from the childrens fathers..
I have the girl at my JOB, she works, she shops like a mad man she is going on vacation and she is still trying to get WIC for her child.. Since you have to go back every couple of mts. Like is this ******* necessary? your going to europe for 2 weeks but you need MILK checks...
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| Posted 8/19/08 1:58 PM |
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
Upon searcing, the system WAS reformed and cash assistance is referred to as TANF, and that "T" stands for temporary. So you can't live your entire life getting cash assistance. I can't find the dollar amounts for NY, but in other states, the max appears to be around $300-400 a MONTH. Not exactly living the high life with that kind of cash in your pocket supporting a family. Now if the families are working off the books, that's a whole other scenario. But since a couple of you know so many people that don't work and live off the system, I really wonder what kind of quality of life they have. It's certainly can't be an lavish one with what they give you.
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| Posted 8/19/08 1:58 PM |
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Re: saw something the other days that is still bothering me
WIC is for anyone that qualifies under the income guidelines. You can work and get WIC.
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| Posted 8/19/08 2:00 PM |
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