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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"

I thought the friends were totally irrelevant. I imagine there were many people who wanted nothing to do with this. They had to use whoever was willing.

Posted 7/27/11 10:34 AM
 
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Posted by Jacksmommy

I just finished watching this. Everyone here keeps talking about the husband but I found more wrong with the Sil. She is the one who said he doesn't want kids. The pi called her back and she said she did not answering the phone. I feel like she is pushing for this big time. Even reading the letter from Jackie hance. I don't know what happened. But she didn't sit right with me more than him.



I also thought it was so weird that she would read that letter to her son from Jackie Hance. That seemed like a really private letter and I am sure, seeing how private Jackie Hance is, she would not like that letter being read as part of this documentary. it is strange the dynamic of Jay in this whole thing. The whole situation is totally a mystery. I can't imagine what would cause her to do this. Maybe the stress of driving 5 kids home alone and she wanted to take the edge off, but going so far over the line is unimaginable. No one will ever know.

Posted 7/27/11 10:37 AM
 

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Posted by Diana1215

I am obsessed with finding out what she said on the phone to her brother. Do we know what he told the police? If I remember correctly it was very vague but I think it was an 8 minute conversation.



Do they think maybe the son that lived could possibly tell them what really happened?

Posted 7/27/11 10:49 AM
 

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I'm so sad that we'll never know the truth.

I want to know what was said in those phone conversations. Why didn't they make the police aware that they were dealing with a possible drunk driver? They didn't stress the urgency.

People who knew Diane said she was a wonderful person. Just goes to show you that we never know what goes on behind closed doors.

I know that after this story no one will drive my children besides myself, my husband, and my parents. You just never know.

This tragedy could have been avoided. Those poor babies. Those poor innocent men.



I am right there with you Diana. It's so sad.

I actually think the reason they didn't make the police aware that they were dealing with a possible drunk driver is because they didn't think she was drunk. I think it supports the claims that people who knew her didn't know her to drink. I have to believe if they thought she was drunk they would have been screaming it with their children in the car. Chat Icon



I agree. She had so much alcohol in her system that she was near the point of blacking out and death. How could she NOT swerve all over the road. It doesn't make sense.

Posted 7/27/11 11:27 AM
 

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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"

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I am physically sick.

I cannot even imagine. And when they showed the pictures of her dead, I almost threw up. Was not expecting that.

That poor little boy, on top of everything else, now knows that his father didn't want kids. Nice.

I don't know what possessed her to do what she did, I dont believe it was by accident because how would the marijuana be explained then? We will never know.



I totally agree. I actually screamed out loud when they showed her body. Why would they do that!? A warning would have been nice.

And the fact that he told ppl he didn't want kids and Now he's left with his son, is completely disgusting.



how far into it did theys how her body? I watched it and didnt see it..maybe I walked out of the room at that point..

Posted 7/27/11 2:34 PM
 

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Posted by IrishMom77
how far into it did theys how her body? I watched it and didnt see it..maybe I walked out of the room at that point..



At least 3/4 into it, when the men were talking about how they tried to help the people in the vehicles. Pretty much near the end....when they were showing the wreckage of the cars. I am still shocked they showed the pics. Chat Icon

Posted 7/27/11 3:03 PM
 

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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"

Why would the husband agree to have those pictures shown?

Why would Jay read that private letter that Jackie Hance wrote to her son? Jay bugged me the entire time but once she read that letter I was so turned off. That was obviously a very private letter and not meant for everyone to hear.

Posted 7/27/11 3:10 PM
 

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I am watching now and I don't know.... All these theories - I kind of think that she just went on a bender the night before, was very hungover on the way home and thought maybe a little hair of the dog that bit her might help. She started to get loaded again, smoked a joint and just started blacking out. It seems pretty cut and dry to me.

I feel bad for this family because it probably was out of character but I know a lot of people who have done some really out of character things while highly intoxicated. I don't think she sought out to get loaded on that ride home but I think that's probably what happened.

Posted 7/27/11 3:12 PM
 

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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"

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Posted by Jacksmommy

I just finished watching this. Everyone here keeps talking about the husband but I found more wrong with the Sil. She is the one who said he doesn't want kids. The pi called her back and she said she did not answering the phone. I feel like she is pushing for this big time. Even reading the letter from Jackie hance. I don't know what happened. But she didn't sit right with me more than him.



I also thought it was so weird that she would read that letter to her son from Jackie Hance. That seemed like a really private letter and I am sure, seeing how private Jackie Hance is, she would not like that letter being read as part of this documentary. it is strange the dynamic of Jay in this whole thing. The whole situation is totally a mystery. I can't imagine what would cause her to do this. Maybe the stress of driving 5 kids home alone and she wanted to take the edge off, but going so far over the line is unimaginable. No one will ever know.



I found that SIL very odd and frankly fame hungry. She was all over that documentary and when they showed news footage she always wanted to speak. I would be interested to see the REAL relationship she had with Diane and Jackie Hance.

There is more to that family dynamic and I bet that could be it's own documentary. There is much more to this story I am sure.

Posted 7/27/11 5:27 PM
 

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Posted by Diana1215

Why would the husband agree to have those pictures shown?

Why would Jay read that private letter that Jackie Hance wrote to her son? Jay bugged me the entire time but once she read that letter I was so turned off. That was obviously a very private letter and not meant for everyone to hear.



She loved every second she was on that documentary!!!

And showing those photos shows what an a$$ that husband is. He really has not respect for his wife at all.

Posted 7/27/11 5:30 PM
 

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Posted by Diana1215

I am obsessed with finding out what she said on the phone to her brother. Do we know what he told the police? If I remember correctly it was very vague but I think it was an 8 minute conversation.



I dont think we know or that we will ever know.

I would also like to know how the girls got the phone, in order to make those phone calls to the parents saying something was wrong with the aunt, that she could not see.



and the several wrong numbers that were dialed that were [i think] one digit off from someone's number. led me to think it was one of the girls trying to place a call for help.




maybe she left the phone on the side of the road so that the kids couldnt use it anymore? she was prob scared they'd tell whomever they were trying to call that she was drunk/high. maybe she figured she'd sober up by the time they arrived home.

Posted 7/27/11 6:10 PM
 

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I found that SIL very odd and frankly fame hungry. She was all over that documentary and when they showed news footage she always wanted to speak.



I thought the same thing - she was using this tragedy to get her 5 minutes of fame. I think she's a sicko.

Posted 7/27/11 7:41 PM
 

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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"

I just watched this my heart is broken. I can't, I can't, I just can't. Those poor babies. The way they died, no one deserves it. They had no chance. I can't even imagine the fear they felt in the last moments of their short, sweet lives. Whether or not Diane was a great person or not, the evil that she did on that day is inexcusable.

Posted 7/27/11 9:42 PM
 

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I finally watched this yesterday and was crying throughout. Those poor children and men.

The father to me seems like a P O S. I hate saying that since he has that beautiful little boy, but some of the things he said and did have me puzzled. The aunt--she seems to love Diane, but it's probably an act for the camera.

The marijuana thing is what makes me confused. EVEN if she drank the vodka for her "abcess" pain, WHEN did she smoke??? And those older girls who must have watched her drink and smoke must have been scared out of their minds. They trusted their aunt.

Posted 7/28/11 7:50 AM
 

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I finally watched last night.

I may be in the minority, but I really want to believe the husband. If that was my DH and I, I would not rest until I could clear DH's name. I would not want the world to see him as a monster drunk driver with 5 kids in the car if I truly believed something medical happened to him. The way the husband is insistent that she would never do that sounds exactly how I would sound if I was in his shoes.

I just feel that if this woman truly was an alchoholic, a pothead or suicidal SOMEONE, anyone, would have come forward by now to say that. She clearly had a lot of family and friends who loved her and they portray her like any other person I know. I don't have any explanation for the alchohol or pot, but I just can't believe this woman would intentionally do this. I also feel like if the Hances knew his sister had a propensity for drinking or smoking, that would have been mentioned in one of the 911 calls but the concern was a medical issue. But who knows? Maybe the Hances aren't coming forward with what they knew about the sister out of respect for her and her surviving son? I don't know. We'll never know. It's a terrible tragedy.

I just hope that precious little boy finds happiness and success in every aspect of his life.

Posted 7/28/11 8:07 AM
 

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Re: "There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane"

she may not have been an alcoholic or pothead per se but she did have high levels of THC and the equivalent to 10 drinks in her system at the time of the accident, maybe they were drinking and smoking all night at the campsite, who knows but the facts are there, I don't believe there could be anything that went medically wrong with a toxicology report that shows alcohol and pot in her system.

Posted 7/28/11 9:26 AM
 

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I finally watched this last night after hearing so much about it (thx for the heads up on the body btw - I totally shut my eyes that whole scene!)

This whole thing makes no sense. Now I have never personally done any drugs or abused alcohol and haven't really had anyone close to me do so - so maybe I am missing something but, I just don't understand ---

- how could someone that had THIS BIG of a problem that they would drive like this with 5 kids in the car have never shown any signs of this. NO ONE seemed to have any clue - even an inkling. And, as a mom I can tell you there is NO WAY her brother and SIL would have EVER entrusted their kids to her if they had any idea at all. And, after she died I'm sure there was a huge investigation into her life and NOTHING seems to have been turned up?

- how was she acting SO normal for so long until she drove the wrong way - leaving the camp site, in the McDonalds, the drug store etc - everyone they interviewed said she seemed perfectly sober and normal. so, she went from NO evidence of alcohol consumption (and if she was heavily drinking the night b/f she would have wreaked of it) - to having 10 plus drinks in her and drugs?

- how was she driving perfectly straight, not swerving etc. yet, she was driving the wrong way for almost 2 miles at top speed?

- what about her son? this is the one thing I don't get the most. her DS was 5 - mine is almost 4 and he can give you a play by play of our day without missing a beat, down to what everyone is wearing. he would have been able to tell me everything that went on that day. This leads me to belive there is ALOT more to this story than ANYONE is saying. At first I thought that maybe he didn't remember the accident b/c of the injury but, the SIL (don't get me started on her) said he does talk about the accident and just says mommy's head hurt and she couldn't see. Didn't he notice the drinking? If there was a fight b/w her and her DH he would have seen that? Couldn't he tell us what she was saying in the car or what the girls were saying etc? Doesn't make sense!

- WTH is the SIL who is NOT related to ANYONE involved in this narrating the whole show??? Honestly, I think it made the whole show pretty worthless. It makes no sense to me why HBO would proceed with this when strangers were the only ones REALLY participating. THe SIL is a media hungry LOON on top of it!

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Posted 7/28/11 10:25 AM
 

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Posted by FirstMate

I finally watched last night.

I may be in the minority, but I really want to believe the husband. If that was my DH and I, I would not rest until I could clear DH's name. I would not want the world to see him as a monster drunk driver with 5 kids in the car if I truly believed something medical happened to him. The way the husband is insistent that she would never do that sounds exactly how I would sound if I was in his shoes.

I just feel that if this woman truly was an alchoholic, a pothead or suicidal SOMEONE, anyone, would have come forward by now to say that. She clearly had a lot of family and friends who loved her and they portray her like any other person I know. I don't have any explanation for the alchohol or pot, but I just can't believe this woman would intentionally do this. I also feel like if the Hances knew his sister had a propensity for drinking or smoking, that would have been mentioned in one of the 911 calls but the concern was a medical issue. But who knows? Maybe the Hances aren't coming forward with what they knew about the sister out of respect for her and her surviving son? I don't know. We'll never know. It's a terrible tragedy.

I just hope that precious little boy finds happiness and success in every aspect of his life.




This is *exactly* how I feel.

Posted 7/28/11 10:32 AM
 

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I won't quote the whole thing because what you wrote was really long.

I think the reason I'm so obsessed with this story is because it just makes no sense. I agree with you on everything you wrote here... I also agree with FirstMate too. My DH would be doing everything he could to try and clear my name if he thought it was not in my character to do this and I would do the same for him.

As for the pot in her system, is it possible that she smoked it the night before and it would still be in her system the next day? I've never smoked before so I really don't know much about it.

The alcohol, she apparently had 6 ounces of un-metabolized liquor in her stomach which means that she drank A LOT and FAST. So I believe that she wasn't drunk when she left the campground. Somewhere along the way she chugged that vodka. That's why deep down inside, I feel like something must have happened to her brain to cause confusion or something. Because any other explanation is too hard for me to grasp. My heart bleeds for her son. He is the one who has to live with all of this and a wacky father. I will admit, something is off about him... but like I said before, imagine all of this happening to you, all the speculation, all of the finger pointing. That's gotta mess you up a little bit. So maybe he's acting funny because of all the stuff that's happened. I don't know. Chat Icon

Posted 7/28/11 10:34 AM
 

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Posted by FirstMate

I finally watched last night.

I may be in the minority, but I really want to believe the husband. If that was my DH and I, I would not rest until I could clear DH's name. I would not want the world to see him as a monster drunk driver with 5 kids in the car if I truly believed something medical happened to him. The way the husband is insistent that she would never do that sounds exactly how I would sound if I was in his shoes.

I just feel that if this woman truly was an alchoholic, a pothead or suicidal SOMEONE, anyone, would have come forward by now to say that. She clearly had a lot of family and friends who loved her and they portray her like any other person I know. I don't have any explanation for the alchohol or pot, but I just can't believe this woman would intentionally do this. I also feel like if the Hances knew his sister had a propensity for drinking or smoking, that would have been mentioned in one of the 911 calls but the concern was a medical issue. But who knows? Maybe the Hances aren't coming forward with what they knew about the sister out of respect for her and her surviving son? I don't know. We'll never know. It's a terrible tragedy.

I just hope that precious little boy finds happiness and success in every aspect of his life.




It's definitely possible to hide a drinking problem from everyone in your life. Also, she and her husband worked opposing shifts, so he didn't know her nightly activities, for all he knows she could have been drinking heavily and smoking pot every single night. I think only a person that had built up a strong tolerance for alcohol could still function in any capacity with 10 drinks in their system.

And I don't think her brother had any idea about it. They don't seem like the type of people who would trust her to drive with their kids in the car if she had a known problem.

Posted 7/28/11 10:38 AM
 

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As for the pot in her system, is it possible that she smoked it the night before and it would still be in her system the next day? I've never smoked before so I really don't know much about it.




The levels of it were very high, indicating that she had smoked it 15 minutes to an hour before she died. Two autopsies supported this.

I don't think any of the proposed medical problem theories explain both the marijuana AND the vodka sitting in her front seat. All the evidence points to it being planned, with her drinking and smoking while driving that van full of kids around.

Posted 7/28/11 10:41 AM
 

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Does anyone know if you can watch this any other place but HBO?

Posted 7/28/11 9:26 PM
 

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I won't quote the whole thing because what you wrote was really long.

I think the reason I'm so obsessed with this story is because it just makes no sense. I agree with you on everything you wrote here... I also agree with FirstMate too. My DH would be doing everything he could to try and clear my name if he thought it was not in my character to do this and I would do the same for him.

As for the pot in her system, is it possible that she smoked it the night before and it would still be in her system the next day? I've never smoked before so I really don't know much about it.

The alcohol, she apparently had 6 ounces of un-metabolized liquor in her stomach which means that she drank A LOT and FAST. So I believe that she wasn't drunk when she left the campground. Somewhere along the way she chugged that vodka. That's why deep down inside, I feel like something must have happened to her brain to cause confusion or something. Because any other explanation is too hard for me to grasp. My heart bleeds for her son. He is the one who has to live with all of this and a wacky father. I will admit, something is off about him... but like I said before, imagine all of this happening to you, all the speculation, all of the finger pointing. That's gotta mess you up a little bit. So maybe he's acting funny because of all the stuff that's happened. I don't know. Chat Icon



yes i feel the same way

Posted 7/28/11 9:51 PM
 

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I can't see how she didn't have an alcohol habit- to ingest that much vodka and still be able to get into a car, be able to turn it on, etc. Half that amount would have me throwing up and immobile. Her DH worked nights and it would be possible for her to drink after putting the kids to bed, and keep it from him.

I also remember reading something, maybe in the NY Mag piece from a while back, that she was on the phone with someone for several hours one night while at the campsite, leading to speculation that maybe she was involved in an affair. But no other info was ever released about that, who she was talking to, etc.

I don't have HBO but I don't think I could handle watching the program anyway.

Posted 7/28/11 9:53 PM
 

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I'm so confused
Jay is the sister in law who is not related to anyone? She is a family friend?
I have to catch this.

Being that she had issues of abandonment and the need to be a supermom maybe she was a closeted alcoholic and just no one knew.

This family has alot of secrets I'm pretty sure. They should get together with the Anthonys.

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